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> It’s 8 p.m. and my scheduled shift is over, but they asked me to stay later > The bus stops running at 10 p.m. on Sunday, but McDonald's asked me to stay unt

> It’s 8 p.m. and my scheduled shift is over, but they asked me to stay later > The bus stops running at 10 p.m. on Sunday, but McDonald's asked me to stay until close at 1 a.m. They asked me to stay because they need my help. Thats not a job, that's an abusive relationship.

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mrguyorama 7y ago
An employer's desire is to pay/benefit you as little as you will possibly take. It is ALWAYS an adversarial relationship. No matter how much you like your boss, someone up the chain is trying to screw you, somehow
- grecy 7y ago
  I feel sad that you might not know this: What you said doesn't apply to many, many other countries around the world. Hundreds of millions of people don't live like this.
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itqwertz 7y ago
Unfortunately, this seems to be the norm for a lot of low-level jobs in the United States. You end up giving in because the job market for such jobs is saturated and others will take it for lower wages/off-the-books. When I was 18 (many years ago), I remember having a job that did the same "we need you to stay later" BS. The buses stopped running at 8PM in the suburbs and I had to regularly walk 5-6 miles back home. Cabs and Lyft/Uber aren't much of an option when it would significantly eat into your paycheck. Most people get tired of giving you rides because you cannot afford a car. Using a bicycle was more dangerous than walking; some people would throw things out their window at you or swerve/yell to scare you. Factor in how managers "reward" certain employees with better shifts or punish by cutting hours. I could see why many people switch to the dole or dealing.
- pergadad 7y ago
  > Using a bicycle was more dangerous than walking; some people would throw things out their window at you or swerve/yell to scare you. The USA really is a strange place.
  - madengr 7y ago
    I bicycled to work for several years. Mostly cars full of shit-head teenagers that do that. The really strange one was 5 AM on a 4 lane street, no other cars around, and a single car comes up behind me and starts honking, about hitting my rear tire.
- to1y 7y ago
  Part of the problem are the actual employees. Many let themselves be abused and do accept these ridiculous shifts making you 'a bad employee' in the eyes of the boss.
abecedarius 7y ago
I agree. It's worth noting that successfully getting high minimum wages enacted can be expected to make more jobs more abusive in this way, because rationing by willingness to take abuse would substitute for rationing by wages. A more humane and less distorting way to help poor people is to just give them money.

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mrguyorama 7y ago

An employer's desire is to pay/benefit you as little as you will possibly take. It is ALWAYS an adversarial relationship. No matter how much you like your boss, someone up the chain is trying to screw you, somehow

grecy 7y ago
I feel sad that you might not know this: What you said doesn't apply to many, many other countries around the world. Hundreds of millions of people don't live like this.

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itqwertz 7y ago

Unfortunately, this seems to be the norm for a lot of low-level jobs in the United States. You end up giving in because the job market for such jobs is saturated and others will take it for lower wages/off-the-books. When I was 18 (many years ago), I remember having a job that did the same "we need you to stay later" BS. The buses stopped running at 8PM in the suburbs and I had to regularly walk 5-6 miles back home. Cabs and Lyft/Uber aren't much of an option when it would significantly eat into your paycheck. Most people get tired of giving you rides because you cannot afford a car. Using a bicycle was more dangerous than walking; some people would throw things out their window at you or swerve/yell to scare you. Factor in how managers "reward" certain employees with better shifts or punish by cutting hours. I could see why many people switch to the dole or dealing.

pergadad 7y ago
> Using a bicycle was more dangerous than walking; some people would throw things out their window at you or swerve/yell to scare you. The USA really is a strange place.
- madengr 7y ago
  I bicycled to work for several years. Mostly cars full of shit-head teenagers that do that. The really strange one was 5 AM on a 4 lane street, no other cars around, and a single car comes up behind me and starts honking, about hitting my rear tire.
to1y 7y ago
Part of the problem are the actual employees. Many let themselves be abused and do accept these ridiculous shifts making you 'a bad employee' in the eyes of the boss.

abecedarius 7y ago

I agree. It's worth noting that successfully getting high minimum wages enacted can be expected to make more jobs more abusive in this way, because rationing by willingness to take abuse would substitute for rationing by wages. A more humane and less distorting way to help poor people is to just give them money.