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I'm trying to parse the phrase "peer level strategic counsel". Does it mean advice as good as the advice we're giving other firms like you?

cobbzilla 7y ago
If I'm Corporate Big Wig I am not taking direction from some fresh-out or underling. I want to talk with the Partner -- a corresponding Big Wig who has "peer-level" status with me. We hash out the big-picture strategy, then the underlings do all the hard implementation work.
mmierz 7y ago
I believe it is intended to mean "strategic advice from someone perceived as a social peer", meaning a high level important executive person, not a junior analyst.
senko 7y ago
I parse it as you'll get the advice as coming from someone on the same level as you, not a subordinate/minion. So in theory it's level-headed, coming from a person not afraid to state things as they are, and you are covered if you act on it. This kind of advice is hard to get for the C-suite outside their boardrooms (which may be biased).
jshaqaw 7y ago
I meant that C suite folks see McKinsey Directors as people at their level of judgement and skill who they can talk to in an open and honest manner to get advice. I’m not saying this is good/bad or right/wrong. Lots of CEOs want a consigliere with good advice who is on their side and that’s what they pay to get with a Director.
- iudqnolq 7y ago
  Thanks for the clarification. I think my mistake was interpreting what you said as the perspective of a hypothetical company and thus assuming you meant a peer-level company. It seems in general McKinsey is rather targeted at the C-Level.
  - ethbro 7y ago
    It's typically targeted at someone of sufficient seniority that the cost of McKinsey is negligible when compared to the cost of doing the wrong / less optimal thing. Or, in other words, if a manager makes a wrong decision then it costs the company $x00,000. If an SVP or C-level screws up, it costs the company $x0,000,000+.
hogFeast 7y ago
Your mistake is trying to "parse". I am sure the phrase has meaning - it, presumably, means take advice from someone with the same social status - but at any deeper level it is quite meaningless. Don't bother. It isn't worth it.

cobbzilla 7y ago

If I'm Corporate Big Wig I am not taking direction from some fresh-out or underling. I want to talk with the Partner -- a corresponding Big Wig who has "peer-level" status with me. We hash out the big-picture strategy, then the underlings do all the hard implementation work.

mmierz 7y ago

I believe it is intended to mean "strategic advice from someone perceived as a social peer", meaning a high level important executive person, not a junior analyst.

senko 7y ago

I parse it as you'll get the advice as coming from someone on the same level as you, not a subordinate/minion. So in theory it's level-headed, coming from a person not afraid to state things as they are, and you are covered if you act on it. This kind of advice is hard to get for the C-suite outside their boardrooms (which may be biased).

jshaqaw 7y ago

I meant that C suite folks see McKinsey Directors as people at their level of judgement and skill who they can talk to in an open and honest manner to get advice. I’m not saying this is good/bad or right/wrong. Lots of CEOs want a consigliere with good advice who is on their side and that’s what they pay to get with a Director.

iudqnolq 7y ago
Thanks for the clarification. I think my mistake was interpreting what you said as the perspective of a hypothetical company and thus assuming you meant a peer-level company. It seems in general McKinsey is rather targeted at the C-Level.
- ethbro 7y ago
  It's typically targeted at someone of sufficient seniority that the cost of McKinsey is negligible when compared to the cost of doing the wrong / less optimal thing. Or, in other words, if a manager makes a wrong decision then it costs the company $x00,000. If an SVP or C-level screws up, it costs the company $x0,000,000+.

hogFeast 7y ago

Your mistake is trying to "parse". I am sure the phrase has meaning - it, presumably, means take advice from someone with the same social status - but at any deeper level it is quite meaningless. Don't bother. It isn't worth it.