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> why wouldn't they simply fix the issue and then release the phone? Hadn't they pushed the release date many times already? I think making progress more palpa

• filmgirlcw 7y ago
  > Isn't it better to ship something flawed and continue improving while already in the hands of people than to ship nothing at all and appear more and more like vaporware? If you position it purely as a hobbyist project and do not guarantee it for day to day use, I think that’s fine. This is fine for a dev kit. I think taking preorders and trying to sell it as a privacy-focused phone that can be a real alternative to the main steel options when you don’t have basic things, like making audio calls, figured out, is problematic. I get the company needs money from preorders to fund development and production, but at the same time, as a consumer, their lack of funding for development/business plan isn’t my problem. I’m generally fine when things like this are kickstarted and the risk is clear. I’m less comfortable when after the crowdfunding, the company does direct to consumer sales/pre-orders, when the stuff just isn’t done and that isn’t well articulated to anyone clicking that pre-order button.
  • seba_dos1 7y ago
    None of the pre-ordered (after the campaign) devices shipped yet, those are early batches sent to early backers who were given a choice to either get them now, or wait for mass produced version.
    • filmgirlcw 7y ago
      I understand that. You're still pre-ordering something that there isn't concrete proof will be ready/as described.