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Didn't Google get into trouble for putting their own shopping results above other search results? It seems like Amazon should seriously be penalized for this. I
by warent 7y ago
Didn't Google get into trouble for putting their own shopping results above other search results? It seems like Amazon should seriously be penalized for this. It's completely anticompetitive.
- RegBarclay 7y agoAmazon isn't a search company, so I think it's a little different case. Also, if I call a Ford dealer and ask them for their best deals, why would I expect them to tell me about Toyotas?
- ProAm 7y agoAmazon is a platform that sells any/all/counterfeit products, Ford dealer sells Fords.
- cik 7y agoFord dealers sell used cars of all types. My local Ford dealer is where I bought my first Integra (an Acura).
- ProAm 7y agoIt depends on the dealer, but for multi-brand sellers you can expect them to push whatever has the most profit margin for them, in the case of a Ford dealer that sells multiple brands (new, Im not talking used) I'd expect them to push Ford for the margin, just like Amazon is going to push their brand. But Amazon is a market-place (whereas I cannot go to this Ford dealership and list my own car for sale) and this is anti-competitive .
- basch 7y agoGrocery stores shouldnt be able to give store brands better placement? Costco shouldnt be able to incentivize Kirkland over a competitor? It makes total sense to go to Amazon to buy Echo, eero, Ring, Blink products, why wouldnt I buy them from their manufacturer?
- ProAm 7y agoNo they shouldnt, that is anti-competitive. Grocery store shelf placement is paid for my brands. If Kirkland pays for better placement they get better placement. Not just because they are the inhouse brand.
- basch 7y agoWhen did stores start having to treat all the products they sell equally?
- ProAm 7y agoThey never have, but grocery stores also do not prevent you from selling your product for cheaper elsewhere.
- jersey 7y agoDoes Amazon prevent you from selling on other platforms if you sell on Amazon?
- uoaei 7y agoHave you ever heard the term "monopoly"? They do by soft power -- leveraging their position in the market to make the alternatives completely unprofitable, thus literally preventing you from selling on other platforms.
- basch 7y agothe word monopoly gets mistakenly used in place of anti-competitive all the time. Are you describing predatory pricing? Where they sell at a loss to put competition out of business or to grow faster? Or are you trying to say its not profitable to sell on ebay or shopify instead of amazon? Amazon using its scale to clone products and sell them with low margins, in an effort to prevent competition from springing up is anti-competitive, but its not them being a monopoly.
- vokep 7y agoYes if they have some that are their best deals.
- RegBarclay 7y agoPerhaps on the used car lot.
- bduerst 7y agoFord isn't a platform for selling cars. If Ford was a company that made it's revenue sold Chevy, Dodge, Volkswagen, Bentley, etc. and it's own cars, then they would be analogous to Amazon.
- travmatt 7y agoCar manufacturers are legally barred from owning dealerships, it’s the individual dealership groups who decide what to sell. Car manufacturers selling directly to the public decreased competition as the manufacturers didn’t have any incentive to undercut their own prices between dealerships selling their own products.
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- warent 7y agoReally? I thought Tesla owned all its dealerships and employed the dealers. Am I confused?
- neonate 7y agoAmazon is a search-for-something-to-buy company. I think the analogy holds.
- notatoad 7y agoAmazon is not the only search-for-something-to-buy-company. Amazon and Google can't both have a monopoly over the same market. There's a lot of stuff that's allowed when you're a normal company and forbidden when you have a monopoly. Some courts declared google a monopoly, and that's why they are restricted in what they can display on their search pages. (not trying to pass judgement here as to what either company should be allowed to do, just saying that's why it is the way it is.)
- tyingq 7y ago"Didn't Google get into trouble for putting their own shopping results above other search results?" They still do that, so the trouble can't have been that bad.
- bduerst 7y agoGoogle shopping results are search ads with pictures. Every single listing is paid to be there. They're literally set up in the same place that the rest of Google ads are. EU wasn't able to distinguish this so they slapped them on the wrist. Amazon isn't promoting sponsored products, they're promoting their own. That would be like Google only showing Pixel 4 as a result for "buy smartphone".
- duxup 7y agoGoogle's shopping thing (Google Shopping?) ... for a while at least was pay to play.
- WoahNoun 7y agoEU considered it anticompetitive because of Google's marketshare in search (something like >80% in the EU). Amazon doesn't have nearly the same marketshare in retail.