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It's probably also the only "phone" that can't place phone calls.

duskwuff 7y ago
This isn't hyperbole. The speaker used to not work during voice calls: > The other [problem] is that call audio isn't routed to the speaker. I haven't personally hit this, I'm just using a data-only SIM and can't remember the last time I actually used a phone to make a voice call. https://azdle.net/2019/11/comparing-apples-and-gnomes/ https://azdle.net/2019/11/comparing-apples-and-gnomes/
lostgame 7y ago
Not sure why the downvotes, here - it’s incredibly valid that a phone of this price should be able to place a normal phone call - it also should’ve been a priority for the developers.
- kop316 7y ago
  The down votes are because it can place and receive phone calls, there is just a bug that doesn't allow audio on the call. EDIT: according to someone below, that bug is fixed too. In addition, the backers getting the phone now were explicitly told that the software isn't polished yet, and that they are getting beta hardware. The backers were offered also to be allowed to wait for a later batch if they wanted to. It definitely is not ready to be a daily driver, don't get me wrong. But folks who wanted it early knew that.
  - unlinked_dll 7y ago
    That's absurdly pedantic. If it can't use audio during a phone call, then the device is incapable of making phone calls. That's like arguing you have a functioning heart because it's connected to your veins but can't pump blood.
    - kop316 7y ago
      If you look at another reply, the bug was fixed already. But to your original comment, I'd argue it's not. Saying it can't make phone calls implies there's a much more severe issue than it apparently was.
      - computerex 7y ago
        It's not fixed. What gives you the impression that it is? No update has been rolled out with a fix.
        kop316 7y ago
        Please read the other reply to the comment. You'll see where I got the impression then. Edit: it looks like the person also directly replied to another comment of yours, so I'll add that here: " > and of course this "bug" hasn't been fixed You can hear call audio if you use CI images since a few days ago already. Last rough edges are being sorted out right now before finally packaging it all into PureOS."
        computerex 7y ago
        The "fix" hasn't been distributed out via an update. You can't expect consumers to go pull images off github. You can't call a problem "fixed" when the alleged "fix" hasn't even been distributed or tested by the public en mass.
      - duskwuff 7y ago
        It's still, quite plainly, ridiculous that they shipped a "phone" which could not (yet) make telephone calls. Even if they fixed the issue in a later software release, the fact remains that they shipped a product in an incomplete, partially unusable state.
        kop316 7y ago
        Since you didn't read past the first paragraph, I'll repeat it here: "In addition, the backers getting the phone now were explicitly told that the software isn't polished yet, and that they are getting beta hardware. The backers were offered also to be allowed to wait for a later batch if they wanted to."
  - seba_dos1 7y ago
    Also, you can already get call audio working if you get latest packages from git or CI.
    - kop316 7y ago
      Ohh good to know! I'm not in any hurry so I will just wait for the official updates.

This isn't hyperbole. The speaker used to not work during voice calls: > The other [problem] is that call audio isn't routed to the speaker. I haven't personally hit this, I'm just using a data-only SIM and can't remember the last time I actually used a phone to make a voice call. https://azdle.net/2019/11/comparing-apples-and-gnomes/ https://azdle.net/2019/11/comparing-apples-and-gnomes/

lostgame 7y ago

Not sure why the downvotes, here - it’s incredibly valid that a phone of this price should be able to place a normal phone call - it also should’ve been a priority for the developers.

kop316 7y ago
The down votes are because it can place and receive phone calls, there is just a bug that doesn't allow audio on the call. EDIT: according to someone below, that bug is fixed too. In addition, the backers getting the phone now were explicitly told that the software isn't polished yet, and that they are getting beta hardware. The backers were offered also to be allowed to wait for a later batch if they wanted to. It definitely is not ready to be a daily driver, don't get me wrong. But folks who wanted it early knew that.
- unlinked_dll 7y ago
  That's absurdly pedantic. If it can't use audio during a phone call, then the device is incapable of making phone calls. That's like arguing you have a functioning heart because it's connected to your veins but can't pump blood.
  - kop316 7y ago
    If you look at another reply, the bug was fixed already. But to your original comment, I'd argue it's not. Saying it can't make phone calls implies there's a much more severe issue than it apparently was.
    - computerex 7y ago
      It's not fixed. What gives you the impression that it is? No update has been rolled out with a fix.
      - kop316 7y ago
        Please read the other reply to the comment. You'll see where I got the impression then. Edit: it looks like the person also directly replied to another comment of yours, so I'll add that here: " > and of course this "bug" hasn't been fixed You can hear call audio if you use CI images since a few days ago already. Last rough edges are being sorted out right now before finally packaging it all into PureOS."
        computerex 7y ago
        The "fix" hasn't been distributed out via an update. You can't expect consumers to go pull images off github. You can't call a problem "fixed" when the alleged "fix" hasn't even been distributed or tested by the public en mass.
    - duskwuff 7y ago
      It's still, quite plainly, ridiculous that they shipped a "phone" which could not (yet) make telephone calls. Even if they fixed the issue in a later software release, the fact remains that they shipped a product in an incomplete, partially unusable state.
      - kop316 7y ago
        Since you didn't read past the first paragraph, I'll repeat it here: "In addition, the backers getting the phone now were explicitly told that the software isn't polished yet, and that they are getting beta hardware. The backers were offered also to be allowed to wait for a later batch if they wanted to."
- seba_dos1 7y ago
  Also, you can already get call audio working if you get latest packages from git or CI.
  - kop316 7y ago
    Ohh good to know! I'm not in any hurry so I will just wait for the official updates.