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I'm not really understanding the second method. I don't see how a rival "dating" site would have any incentive to get a customer to pay for a rival service. Ar

by minouye 16y ago

I'm not really understanding the second method. I don't see how a rival "dating" site would have any incentive to get a customer to pay for a rival service. Are you saying that once affiliates drove a user sign-up, they would engage the user via messages to get them to sign up for a paid plan so they would get a greater payout? If so, how did they find the specific users that signed up via their affiliate links? Just trying to understand who other than WooMe would have an incentive to spam on their site.

elliottcarlson 16y ago
It wouldn't be rival dating sites; it would be affiliates to rival sites. I guess the best way to see it is; once you have identified a sucker, take them for all they are worth. Possible scenario: 1) User signs up for free on WooMe 2) User is enticed by fake account to signup because the picture alone suckered them in, and the unknown of their message just made it too much. 3) Fake account tells user to check out their profile on fake account's website 4) Fake accounts website is a redirect with affiliate code to rival site 5) User signs up for rival site, thus giving the commission to the fake account's holder. It sounds like a lot of work, but it's all automated and easy to pull off. Edited for formatting
- minouye 16y ago
  So the user signs up for paid accounts on two different sites? Sounds lucrative and very shady.
  - elliottcarlson 16y ago
    If the user is gullible enough - or at least that is the hopes of some of these fake accounts. It pays off even if you convert 10 people a day - and most likely that is a very easy target number to hit. Keep in mind this is all playing on human emotions; sex or the desire to be wanted being a huge one; and for some lonely souls out there, it makes them easier prey. My history with doing affiliate programs with that industry has proven that if marketed correctly, it can be a very rewarding business, and even with some seriously scary a/b tests (let's just throw the term farm sex out there) you can still get good conversions. People's desires and curiosity gets to them - and in to their wallet.
    - minouye 16y ago
      I'm not judging you, but an activity where you view your "customers" as prey seems really depressing. I certainly couldn't sleep at night knowing I was taking advantage of people yearning for some happiness in their lives.
      - elliottcarlson 16y ago
        Oh, I never took part in these practices, sorry if I lead you to believe this. I did work as an affiliate for these type of sites, however it was via a blog that would review the sites. I will admit, I was deceptive in the fact that I never really used the sites - I was working an angle to make money, but I never tricked users in to thinking I was someone else, or lured them in to a situation where they were forced to register. My reviews simply talked about the features of the site, then provided a link with my affiliate code. The actual luring tactics do seem predatory and that's why I worded it like that - simply because I have witnessed how others were going about things.

by minouye 16y ago

elliottcarlson 16y ago

It wouldn't be rival dating sites; it would be affiliates to rival sites. I guess the best way to see it is; once you have identified a sucker, take them for all they are worth. Possible scenario: 1) User signs up for free on WooMe 2) User is enticed by fake account to signup because the picture alone suckered them in, and the unknown of their message just made it too much. 3) Fake account tells user to check out their profile on fake account's website 4) Fake accounts website is a redirect with affiliate code to rival site 5) User signs up for rival site, thus giving the commission to the fake account's holder. It sounds like a lot of work, but it's all automated and easy to pull off. Edited for formatting

minouye 16y ago
So the user signs up for paid accounts on two different sites? Sounds lucrative and very shady.
- elliottcarlson 16y ago
  If the user is gullible enough - or at least that is the hopes of some of these fake accounts. It pays off even if you convert 10 people a day - and most likely that is a very easy target number to hit. Keep in mind this is all playing on human emotions; sex or the desire to be wanted being a huge one; and for some lonely souls out there, it makes them easier prey. My history with doing affiliate programs with that industry has proven that if marketed correctly, it can be a very rewarding business, and even with some seriously scary a/b tests (let's just throw the term farm sex out there) you can still get good conversions. People's desires and curiosity gets to them - and in to their wallet.
  - minouye 16y ago
    I'm not judging you, but an activity where you view your "customers" as prey seems really depressing. I certainly couldn't sleep at night knowing I was taking advantage of people yearning for some happiness in their lives.
    - elliottcarlson 16y ago
      Oh, I never took part in these practices, sorry if I lead you to believe this. I did work as an affiliate for these type of sites, however it was via a blog that would review the sites. I will admit, I was deceptive in the fact that I never really used the sites - I was working an angle to make money, but I never tricked users in to thinking I was someone else, or lured them in to a situation where they were forced to register. My reviews simply talked about the features of the site, then provided a link with my affiliate code. The actual luring tactics do seem predatory and that's why I worded it like that - simply because I have witnessed how others were going about things.