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Yes there is a point to switching. Mozilla is 10000000x more on our side.

nobleach 7y ago
From a purely philosophical standpoint, Mozilla has always been the browser of "choice". Its humble beginnings never included "world domination"... and Firefox was an extraordinarily bold attempt to unseat IE. Chrome did a lot of good things in the beginning. It brought web standards to the forefront. The past few years though, the same old tired story has played out. Company gets too much market share, and subsequently believes they should own/police/decide the future of the web. In the case of Google, naturally, their motives for web "ownership/domination" are fiscally motivated. (I'm not saying this is wrong in regard to making money for their shareholders. I am saying that this often is not what's good for their average user) But that's the issue, they never promised they were doing this for "freedom" or any other reason.
- 40four 7y ago
  >Chrome did a lot of good things in the beginning. It brought web standards to the forefront. To be fair to Google, I think it is important to acknowledge the good things Chrome did in the beginning. I remember when it came out, and most (non - Mac users) were still using IE, it was fantastic! I remember jumping on board immediately. But for me at this point, it has become too much to bear. At this point they are making so much money from tracking users and selling to advertisers.. who could blame them for continuing to do so? I sure can't, haha. But after a while, I started realizing all the intrusive & creepy advertisements I was seeing were simply a result of the browser software I chose, and the website I chose do do my searches on, so I started looking for alternatives.
Scarbutt 7y ago
Yes but Mozilla is lazy, badly managed and dumb. They were too late on mobile, and if it weren't for Chrome, Firefox today would need 64GB of RAM to run.
- diffeomorphism 7y ago
  I'd rather have someone "dumb" on my side than someone "smart" actively working against me.
- Karunamon 7y ago
  I’ve seen Firefox north of 20gb on my 32gb desktop more than once, and tab crashes are a daily annoyance. Worse, it doesn’t seem appreciably faster on machines with less memory. I wish there was some config flag I could set that would put it on a diet...
  - behringer 7y ago
    Stop hoarding tabs. Anyway I think those are arguments in the past anyway.
    - wizzwizz4 7y ago
      Firefox can cope with tab hoarding pretty well, so long as they're not all pinned or anything and you restart your browser every so often.
    - Karunamon 7y ago
      "In the past"? I can reproduce this on my daily driver today. Why do I need to change my workflow because Firefox got worse at what I've used it for for years? If I have to change the way I work, why not change browsers too? If there's a tab limit beyond which Firefox can't effectively control itself, why is that not a hard coded limit?
      - behringer 7y ago
        Ram is cheap: https://www.amazon.com/slp/memory-ram-ddr4/rcnyvqomjbxu8pj https://www.amazon.com/slp/memory-ram-ddr4/rcnyvqomjbxu8pj
        Karunamon 7y ago
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From a purely philosophical standpoint, Mozilla has always been the browser of "choice". Its humble beginnings never included "world domination"... and Firefox was an extraordinarily bold attempt to unseat IE. Chrome did a lot of good things in the beginning. It brought web standards to the forefront. The past few years though, the same old tired story has played out. Company gets too much market share, and subsequently believes they should own/police/decide the future of the web. In the case of Google, naturally, their motives for web "ownership/domination" are fiscally motivated. (I'm not saying this is wrong in regard to making money for their shareholders. I am saying that this often is not what's good for their average user) But that's the issue, they never promised they were doing this for "freedom" or any other reason.

40four 7y ago
>Chrome did a lot of good things in the beginning. It brought web standards to the forefront. To be fair to Google, I think it is important to acknowledge the good things Chrome did in the beginning. I remember when it came out, and most (non - Mac users) were still using IE, it was fantastic! I remember jumping on board immediately. But for me at this point, it has become too much to bear. At this point they are making so much money from tracking users and selling to advertisers.. who could blame them for continuing to do so? I sure can't, haha. But after a while, I started realizing all the intrusive & creepy advertisements I was seeing were simply a result of the browser software I chose, and the website I chose do do my searches on, so I started looking for alternatives.

Scarbutt 7y ago

Yes but Mozilla is lazy, badly managed and dumb. They were too late on mobile, and if it weren't for Chrome, Firefox today would need 64GB of RAM to run.

diffeomorphism 7y ago
I'd rather have someone "dumb" on my side than someone "smart" actively working against me.
Karunamon 7y ago
I’ve seen Firefox north of 20gb on my 32gb desktop more than once, and tab crashes are a daily annoyance. Worse, it doesn’t seem appreciably faster on machines with less memory. I wish there was some config flag I could set that would put it on a diet...
- behringer 7y ago
  Stop hoarding tabs. Anyway I think those are arguments in the past anyway.
  - wizzwizz4 7y ago
    Firefox can cope with tab hoarding pretty well, so long as they're not all pinned or anything and you restart your browser every so often.
  - Karunamon 7y ago
    "In the past"? I can reproduce this on my daily driver today. Why do I need to change my workflow because Firefox got worse at what I've used it for for years? If I have to change the way I work, why not change browsers too? If there's a tab limit beyond which Firefox can't effectively control itself, why is that not a hard coded limit?
    - behringer 7y ago
      Ram is cheap: https://www.amazon.com/slp/memory-ram-ddr4/rcnyvqomjbxu8pj https://www.amazon.com/slp/memory-ram-ddr4/rcnyvqomjbxu8pj
      - Karunamon 7y ago

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