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Its quite funny that America was once heavily criticized for meddling in other country's affairs and inviting their hatred in return (pre 9/11 days). And now, t

Its quite funny that America was once heavily criticized for meddling in other country's affairs and inviting their hatred in return (pre 9/11 days). And now, they are criticized for exactly the opposite thing: Just minding their own business and securing it from outsiders!

kalia35 7y ago
Securing a border != imprisonning children and separate them from their family
- microcolonel 7y ago
  > ...separating them from their families. When given the opportunity, the Democratic representatives refused to support a bill that simply reversed that one Clinton-era decision that leads to the separation of children from the people who claim to be their guardians at the border (who are, as it turns out, often not). Much noise has been made about using these children as bargaining chips, by both sides, but neither seems to be totally above it.
  - kalia35 7y ago
    I think that's plainly wrong. 1. There is no need for a bill to modify ICE misconducts 2. The bill was for financing ICE and help it amplify it's bad behaviors 3. When the democrats would not pay for inhumane ICE, the reps told everyone the dems were against every changement.
Miner49er 7y ago
The United States is likely the main cause of this immigration flow. We regularly meddle in the elections and politics of South American countries. [1] Many of the immigrants coming to the US currently are fleeing Honduras, where we seemed to have supported a coup in 2011. [2] Besides coups, our drug war has been exported to the area and has had a negative effect as well. So yeah, the same people criticizing the US for meddling in other countries are criticizing it's immigration policy because the immigration problem is caused by the meddling. They think the United States should take responsibility for the problem it created. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... [2] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-us-role-in-the-honduras-coup-and-subsequent-violence_b_5766c7ebe4b0092652d7a138 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-us-role-in-the-honduras-c...

kalia35 7y ago

Securing a border != imprisonning children and separate them from their family

microcolonel 7y ago
> ...separating them from their families. When given the opportunity, the Democratic representatives refused to support a bill that simply reversed that one Clinton-era decision that leads to the separation of children from the people who claim to be their guardians at the border (who are, as it turns out, often not). Much noise has been made about using these children as bargaining chips, by both sides, but neither seems to be totally above it.
- kalia35 7y ago
  I think that's plainly wrong. 1. There is no need for a bill to modify ICE misconducts 2. The bill was for financing ICE and help it amplify it's bad behaviors 3. When the democrats would not pay for inhumane ICE, the reps told everyone the dems were against every changement.

Miner49er 7y ago

The United States is likely the main cause of this immigration flow. We regularly meddle in the elections and politics of South American countries. [1] Many of the immigrants coming to the US currently are fleeing Honduras, where we seemed to have supported a coup in 2011. [2] Besides coups, our drug war has been exported to the area and has had a negative effect as well. So yeah, the same people criticizing the US for meddling in other countries are criticizing it's immigration policy because the immigration problem is caused by the meddling. They think the United States should take responsibility for the problem it created. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... [2] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-us-role-in-the-honduras-coup-and-subsequent-violence_b_5766c7ebe4b0092652d7a138 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-us-role-in-the-honduras-c...