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The Daily Mail’s List of Things That Give You Cancer: From a to Z
- treebornfrog 7y agoThere should be more sites like this that index the nonsense these mainstream publications report.
- bdz 7y agoThe EU has a dedicated site for "euromyths" reported by the UK media https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/
- tptacek 7y agoDid you just refer to The Daily Mail as a "mainstream publication"?
- big_chungus 7y agoMainstream does not imply respectable. Many "tabloid-esque" publications (e.g. buzz feed) are not reputable and publish low-quality, poorly-sourced, salacious stories. Sometimes, they publish something good; it's the broken clock being right.
- liability 7y agoMainstream and disreputable.
- eloff 7y agoTo be fair many, maybe even most of these have a thread of truth. The sad reality is living elevates your risk of cancer. The food you eat, the water you drink, the air you breathe, and the earth and structures you live on/in. And some things may simultaneously increase and decrease your risk of cancer at the same time. Coffee and sunlight probably fall into that category. That said, it's all about quantifying the change in risk and deciding if that's worth it or not. (Easier said than done.)
- ars 7y agoReminds me of reading two articles: one claimed global warming caused drought and the other that it caused rain in the exact same spot, in the exact same time period. I've also seen predictions that global warming would cause both more, and fewer, hurricanes. We need one of those sites for global warming, because people blame absolutely everything on global warming (with zero scientific study). It's always "here's something that is different, yup, must be global warming". (This isn't a dig on science, actual scientists would never do that - they are far more careful on blaming specific things.)
- qrbLPHiKpiux 7y agoOn a long enough timeline the survival for everyone drops to zero.
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y agoIs this longer or shorter than the California Prop 65 list?
- haser_au 7y agoShorter. California Prop 65 List [1]: 614 (excludes delisted entries, 'type of toxicity' contains "cancer") Daily Mail: 169 [1] September 2019 version. https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/proposition-65-list https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/proposition-65-list
- snthd 7y agohttps://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com https://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com
- bonoboTP 7y agoA kind of random thought: why could that be that most things that prevent disease are of the sort that requires discipline and effort (exercise, bland-tasting food), while things that we naturally like (lots of fat, sugar, salt, alcohol, cigarettes and sitting on the couch) cause health problems? I mean, I'm not interested in some deep metaphysical moral lesson of how one must work for things that are desirable. I mean how does such a situation come about evolutionarily? It seems like we're attracted to things that harm us and that needs serious explanation. One answer could be that we're just far removed from the environment that our desires were calbirated for, but it seems strange that it's just so consistent. I don't remember reading about anything preventing cancer that people just naturally like to do/eat. Maybe it's also publication bias in the news and the "postman biting the dog" being more newsworthy than the "dog biting the postman" (Hungarian saying, not sure if it exists in English).
- CDSlice 7y agoWe have a similar saying but we shorten it to "man bites dog".
- nothrabannosir 7y agoYes! Man bites dog. :) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_bites_dog_(journalism) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_bites_dog_(journalism)
- schwartzworld 7y agoToo much of anything is unhealthy. Too much exercise can hurt or kill you, but most people don't exercise that much because it stops feeling good. It's not that healthy behaviors can't be pleasurable, but they are rarely pleasurable in the way that kills you.
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- magerleagues 7y agoThere is an unclosed </a> tag that breaks all the links past NUTELLA. Also... broccoli??
- gerdesj 7y agoWeb pages can catch cancer and you've just found a sufferer. It may be coincidence that "obesity" is the first broken entry. I clicked on the obesity entry and ... "Nutella gives you cancer. ..." Yes - you are right it is broken, technically as well as contentwise. The Roast potatoes link (you say tommmmmmmmmatoe, I say potarrrrto or something) works and so do some of the others. Broccoli can be pretty dangerous if not handled correctly.
- flavor8 7y agoYeah, broccoli is actually a cancer preventive, according to the How Not to Die doctor. https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/broccoli/ https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/broccoli/
- azinman2 7y agoI don’t understand what their point is. The list is quite disingenuous and intellectually lazy. For example, “Dildos give you cancer” according to http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2611376/These-toys-arent-sharing-How-sex-aids-spread-cancer-causing-HPV-virus-partners.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2611376/These-toys... But actually it’s not dildos, it’s HPV, and it can be transmitted by sharing dildos. But it can also be transmitted with sexual intercourse, so they should list it under sex. And while we’re continuing to go further away from the actual cause, we might as well say human interaction or just plain being a human. This kind of work makes people say “everything gives you cancer, so therefore I won’t care about any one thing,” which ignores the fact that you can absolutely dramatically change your risk profile one way or another based upon your actions... as well as what’s legal to be sold. We shouldn’t look at this as an excuse for asbestos to be legal again, for example.
- hombre_fatal 7y agoYeah, I stopped at the first example: Afternoons. It's just saying that the sun is brighter in the afternoon than in the morning, so sun-bathing in the afternoon increases skin cancer risk more than in the morning. Then I closed the tab.
- undecisive 7y agoNot sure whether you're talking about the Daily Mail or the Anorak website? Certainly everything you say is absolutely true about the Daily Mail, the sensationalist misattribution appeals to their fanbase.
- Havoc 7y agoAt least some of those seem credible to me? Alcohol and sausages (processed red meat) for example are on the WHO list if memory serves
- yarrel 7y agoThe ingtersection of this and their list of things that cure it is not the empty set.
- undecisive 7y agoFor those unfamiliar, the Daily Mail (as a brit) is notorious for being sensationalist and playing on the most base fears of the intellectually ungifted. You know what? I'll say it plainly: It's an idiot's paper. It's clickbait in physical form. It is not on a critical thinker's go-to list of newspapers. It is written by probably intelligent (albeit morally compromised) people to appeal to the racists and the reactionaries. It has an unashamedly strong conservative bias. One week it will tell people that red wine causes cancer, and the next week it will tell people that red wine cures cancer. It will tell you that Conservatives are being compassionate in slashing funds for the disabled, while Labour is communist for wanting to raise even a penny in taxes. It's because of its readership that we should all be wary of the damage that the Daily Mail can do. The only time you'll see language that might challenge a 5-year-old is on one of these cancer scares, mostly so that "the man down the pub" will switch off and avoid further research.