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Since the FCC Won't Act on robo-calls, Congress Finally Passes Traced Act

25 points by ssklash 7y ago

dopylitty 7y ago
I’m not sure why it’s not mentioned in the article but if I’m reading it right the act does appear to require phone companies to implement the STIR/SHAKEN protocols to authenticate calls so this isn’t just giving the FCC powers it already had to fine callers it had no way to identify.
namibj 7y ago
If the statutory damages are that high, why not offer a consumer-targeted service that automates the attorney-sue-part of the whole ordeal? Or at least everything except the small claims date, so you just get told when yo appear and are given some briefing by the service to know what you'll need to do in court. Take commission, and take care of all collection that might be needed. Drag non-payers to criminal court/liquidate their assets. It's not so much about individual-claim-level ROI, but about making robocall operations as dangerous if not more so than running a meth lab.
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  The robocall operations will just outsource to some foreign country.
  - Porthos9K 7y ago
    Then we brand robocall operators as terrorists and bomb them. America, fuck yeah.
    - dang 7y ago
      Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News?
  - namibj 7y ago
    Then you can at least use phones for domestic purposes. If your netowrk allows foreigners to spoof numbers with no international prefix, you've done something obviously wrong, because at least most explanations for allowing caller-id spoofing won't hold in the international scenario. Especially now with VoIP, as you can just make these international callers use a VoIP to proxy the call (and thus get subject to US jurisdiction with it;s KYC lawas and all).
mycall 7y ago
Goes to Senate, goes to sleep.
- ssklash 7y ago
  TFA says it's passed the Senate and head to Trump's desk for signature.
LinuxBender 7y ago
Instead of fines, I would rather see mandatory SS7 circuit decom for any business that facilitates these calls, spoofed text messages, etc. Same goes for ISP's. Facilitate this nonsense, lose your AS number and IP allocations.

25 points by ssklash 7y ago

I’m not sure why it’s not mentioned in the article but if I’m reading it right the act does appear to require phone companies to implement the STIR/SHAKEN protocols to authenticate calls so this isn’t just giving the FCC powers it already had to fine callers it had no way to identify.

namibj 7y ago

If the statutory damages are that high, why not offer a consumer-targeted service that automates the attorney-sue-part of the whole ordeal? Or at least everything except the small claims date, so you just get told when yo appear and are given some briefing by the service to know what you'll need to do in court. Take commission, and take care of all collection that might be needed. Drag non-payers to criminal court/liquidate their assets. It's not so much about individual-claim-level ROI, but about making robocall operations as dangerous if not more so than running a meth lab.

Fjolsvith 7y ago
The robocall operations will just outsource to some foreign country.
- Porthos9K 7y ago
  Then we brand robocall operators as terrorists and bomb them. America, fuck yeah.
  - dang 7y ago
    Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News?
- namibj 7y ago
  Then you can at least use phones for domestic purposes. If your netowrk allows foreigners to spoof numbers with no international prefix, you've done something obviously wrong, because at least most explanations for allowing caller-id spoofing won't hold in the international scenario. Especially now with VoIP, as you can just make these international callers use a VoIP to proxy the call (and thus get subject to US jurisdiction with it;s KYC lawas and all).

mycall 7y ago

Goes to Senate, goes to sleep.

ssklash 7y ago
TFA says it's passed the Senate and head to Trump's desk for signature.

LinuxBender 7y ago

Instead of fines, I would rather see mandatory SS7 circuit decom for any business that facilitates these calls, spoofed text messages, etc. Same goes for ISP's. Facilitate this nonsense, lose your AS number and IP allocations.