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This was just discussed in similar posts recently. But there are flaws with this idea of contemporary discrimination specifically when looking at statistics of

This was just discussed in similar posts recently. But there are flaws with this idea of contemporary discrimination specifically when looking at statistics of people who get "approved" for a job, college, etc. Often times people advocate that those numbers should be equalized to some extent to be "fair", regardless of the context around which those approvals are made. If applicants are given preferential treatment to "balance" these "unfair" results, well you are in fact the very problem you're trying to solve. Jobs or college acceptance should be based on performance or capability, and the root of the problem actually really lies in opportunity. Often times minorities don't have access to equal opportunity, which results in sub-average performance. But that does not mean we should necessarily just "lower the bar" for a demographic because that's their average. Rather we should work to balance opportunity, and continue to make actions on capability and performance because that's what's truly fair. We should not compromise people's lives when they've worked hard (regardless of race etc) just because they aren't of a specific demographic and fit the majority even though they performed better and would theoretically contribute more than worse counterparts. Morgan Freeman actually talks about this in relation to race, and the blame lies on both of the sides of the spectrum that actively bring attention to and try to base decisions on race.

pstuart 7y ago
I'm sorry, but where did I advocate for "lowering the bar"? A simple example of what I'm trying to describe: the treatment of POC by the police. For example, stop and frisk laws. The ACLU does not look favorably upon them: https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data Please explain to me how the example given is not an example of social injustice that should not be tolerated by an enlightened society.
- TheFiend7 7y ago
  I made assumptions about the kind of "social injustice" you were talking about. There are many different forms of social injustice (by definition) that captures both what I'm describing and what you're describing. My comments stand around the kind of social injustice I was describing, which was denying or accepting applicants for opportunities based on demographics vs performance. What you're describing is a different kind of social injustice which is arguably racism in the police force or in the justice system. They're different manifestations of the same concept that is social injustice. We aren't contradicting each other, I just didn't know what kind of social injustice you were talking about because you didn't specify in the original post.

pstuart 7y ago

I'm sorry, but where did I advocate for "lowering the bar"? A simple example of what I'm trying to describe: the treatment of POC by the police. For example, stop and frisk laws. The ACLU does not look favorably upon them: https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data Please explain to me how the example given is not an example of social injustice that should not be tolerated by an enlightened society.

TheFiend7 7y ago
I made assumptions about the kind of "social injustice" you were talking about. There are many different forms of social injustice (by definition) that captures both what I'm describing and what you're describing. My comments stand around the kind of social injustice I was describing, which was denying or accepting applicants for opportunities based on demographics vs performance. What you're describing is a different kind of social injustice which is arguably racism in the police force or in the justice system. They're different manifestations of the same concept that is social injustice. We aren't contradicting each other, I just didn't know what kind of social injustice you were talking about because you didn't specify in the original post.