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When they say "business travelers", do they mean people traveling for business, or people traveling in business class? I am fairly certain that those are almost

When they say "business travelers", do they mean people traveling for business, or people traveling in business class? I am fairly certain that those are almost entirely disparate groups at this point.

rconti 7y ago
People traveling for business. And they're more profitable for reasons not relating to class of seat.
- ggm 7y ago
  Premium economy is profitable and robbing economy and business. We might see a return to a happy medium
  - rconti 7y ago
    I would so love this. It seems like it shouldn't be too much to ask to spend 50% more and actually get an armrest and a seat that doesn't make my tailbone numb after a few hours. In percentage terms, it's not a lot of space. If a couple inches for an armrest is to wide to fit in an existing plane in a 3+3 config, maybe they should plan better for the next generation of planes.
    - ggm 7y ago
      Some writers say the bombardier C has widened the middle seat in 3 abreast, which would be a significant thing if true. My personal view, (from the luxury of Business, now moving back south as I cease work travel) is that seat pitch, seat size, and seat density should be regulated. That removes competitive tension around "who suffers more for price" but at a socialized cost of travel costs more than bucket seat prices. I know thats anti-democratising in the specifics of who now will be able to afford routine travel, but the cram-them-in approach has got beyond acceptable.
      - DrScientist 7y ago
        Regulated for what size person? The average ( then still too small for a good proportion ), or 60%, 70 or 80& of average? Also people are different proportions - length v body, top versus bottom part of leg etc. You might also deprive diminutive people one of their few perks - cheap and comfortable air travel :-)
        rconti 7y ago
        Presumably, anything better than what we have today would be... better.

rconti 7y ago

People traveling for business. And they're more profitable for reasons not relating to class of seat.

ggm 7y ago
Premium economy is profitable and robbing economy and business. We might see a return to a happy medium
- rconti 7y ago
  I would so love this. It seems like it shouldn't be too much to ask to spend 50% more and actually get an armrest and a seat that doesn't make my tailbone numb after a few hours. In percentage terms, it's not a lot of space. If a couple inches for an armrest is to wide to fit in an existing plane in a 3+3 config, maybe they should plan better for the next generation of planes.
  - ggm 7y ago
    Some writers say the bombardier C has widened the middle seat in 3 abreast, which would be a significant thing if true. My personal view, (from the luxury of Business, now moving back south as I cease work travel) is that seat pitch, seat size, and seat density should be regulated. That removes competitive tension around "who suffers more for price" but at a socialized cost of travel costs more than bucket seat prices. I know thats anti-democratising in the specifics of who now will be able to afford routine travel, but the cram-them-in approach has got beyond acceptable.
    - DrScientist 7y ago
      Regulated for what size person? The average ( then still too small for a good proportion ), or 60%, 70 or 80& of average? Also people are different proportions - length v body, top versus bottom part of leg etc. You might also deprive diminutive people one of their few perks - cheap and comfortable air travel :-)
      - rconti 7y ago
        Presumably, anything better than what we have today would be... better.