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> I know MSFT technologies get a lot of hate here Are you reading the same HN as I do? In the last couple of years, I see a lot more positive than negative co

> I know MSFT technologies get a lot of hate here Are you reading the same HN as I do? In the last couple of years, I see a lot more positive than negative comments whenever Microsoft comes up. From what I see, Google is the company that gets the most hate on HN. Of course, Microsoft isn't universally loved. There are a lot of people that don't trust them based on their past behavior, and the fact that Windows and Microsoft Office are still an entrenched monopoly. That might not apply to ASP.NET Core, but not everyone is going to let MSFT off the hook.

saagarjha 7y ago
Interestingly, I ran some very rough sentiment analysis of the comments here and it turns out that Apple gets people the most worked up, followed closely by Facebook. Of Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and Facebook, posts about Microsoft did seem to have the most positive comments.
- somedangedname 7y ago
  To add to the general din: Apple are the worst. They kept me waiting four months this year for a client's enterprise developer enrolment to complete. When the client were enrolled? Surprise! You can't sign apps for in-house distribution for another two weeks. Not mentioned anywhere when you sign up. I talked to Apple support and they told me to pound sand. My last enquiry to Tim Cook's customer complaints inbox went unanswered.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Oh, I remember being hit by this. Agree that it's not well documented; I think it's there to prevent "signing services" from spring up (not that it does a great job…)
- ksec 7y ago
  I thought it was pretty clear even without any Stats. People know what Microsoft is doing, the good things and Open Sources. They dont use it not because of hate, I think it is 1. It isn't good enough to make the jump into another ecosystem or language yet. 2. Not hating doesn't mean loving them. IE era, that is IE 5 - 6 if you aren't old enough ( Yes, some people still bash WebKit as the new IE and thinks IE era meant IE7... ) along with the pain on early Windows days still hurt a bit, they will have to try harder, and doing so continuously to win those people back. The thing about Apple isn't hate as in Google or Facebook. It is people have high expectations of Apple and demands quality from them, and when they are not up to that high bar, people complain.
keithnz 7y ago
I've noticed for the new things MS introduce, especially open source stuff, there is a lot more love thrown around. However, if MS does something that could remotely look like Embrace, Extend, Extinguish then a lot more hate is thrown around. This is occurring a bit more as MS pushes outside of it's Windows world. It seems to me their general plan has changed to Embrace and Host
- techntoke 7y ago
  Embrace and analytics

saagarjha 7y ago

Interestingly, I ran some very rough sentiment analysis of the comments here and it turns out that Apple gets people the most worked up, followed closely by Facebook. Of Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and Facebook, posts about Microsoft did seem to have the most positive comments.

somedangedname 7y ago
To add to the general din: Apple are the worst. They kept me waiting four months this year for a client's enterprise developer enrolment to complete. When the client were enrolled? Surprise! You can't sign apps for in-house distribution for another two weeks. Not mentioned anywhere when you sign up. I talked to Apple support and they told me to pound sand. My last enquiry to Tim Cook's customer complaints inbox went unanswered.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Oh, I remember being hit by this. Agree that it's not well documented; I think it's there to prevent "signing services" from spring up (not that it does a great job…)
ksec 7y ago
I thought it was pretty clear even without any Stats. People know what Microsoft is doing, the good things and Open Sources. They dont use it not because of hate, I think it is 1. It isn't good enough to make the jump into another ecosystem or language yet. 2. Not hating doesn't mean loving them. IE era, that is IE 5 - 6 if you aren't old enough ( Yes, some people still bash WebKit as the new IE and thinks IE era meant IE7... ) along with the pain on early Windows days still hurt a bit, they will have to try harder, and doing so continuously to win those people back. The thing about Apple isn't hate as in Google or Facebook. It is people have high expectations of Apple and demands quality from them, and when they are not up to that high bar, people complain.

keithnz 7y ago

I've noticed for the new things MS introduce, especially open source stuff, there is a lot more love thrown around. However, if MS does something that could remotely look like Embrace, Extend, Extinguish then a lot more hate is thrown around. This is occurring a bit more as MS pushes outside of it's Windows world. It seems to me their general plan has changed to Embrace and Host

techntoke 7y ago
Embrace and analytics