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There is a vast difference between selling software to your own government for their use and directly, actively, and punitively screwing with an individual a fo

by LiNeXT 7y ago

There is a vast difference between selling software to your own government for their use and directly, actively, and punitively screwing with an individual a foreign government doesn't like.

SolaceQuantum 7y ago
It was done in order to continue friendly relations with a potential client base. Wasn’t Amazons Ring panned for giving data to the police? Don’t we have a thread on the front page right now about Google giving personal data to the DoJ?
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago
  > It was done in order to continue friendly relations with a potential client base The analogous action for GitHub to Blizzard’s would be booting a user ICE doesn't like to maintain friendly ties with the latter. That hasn't happened.
  - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
    Didn’t GitLab do this?
    - input_sh 7y ago
      As far as I know, not quite. GitLab modified their customer acceptance so that it gives them an option to refuse a client, saying that they will reach such a decision on a case-by-case basis: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/merge_requests/32614/diffs https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/merge_requests/... ...while Chef's CEO openly said that they will not renew their contract with ICE and CBP, as well as to donate the equivalent revenue of their current contracts to charities that help people impacted: https://blog.chef.io/an-important-update-from-chef/ https://blog.chef.io/an-important-update-from-chef/ > After deep introspection and dialog within Chef, we will not renew our current contracts with ICE and CBP when they expire over the next year. Chef will fulfill our full obligations under the current contracts.
claudeganon 7y ago
I’m fairly certain the actions themselves of the entity being protested are what’s driving the discontent here. People are upset about Hong Kong protestors being tortured and disappeared by police just like they are about migrants being treated the same way by ICE. It’s not it being your own government vs. a foreign government that’s at issue. It’s what they’re doing to people.

by LiNeXT 7y ago

There is a vast difference between selling software to your own government for their use and directly, actively, and punitively screwing with an individual a foreign government doesn't like.

SolaceQuantum 7y ago

It was done in order to continue friendly relations with a potential client base. Wasn’t Amazons Ring panned for giving data to the police? Don’t we have a thread on the front page right now about Google giving personal data to the DoJ?

JumpCrisscross 7y ago
> It was done in order to continue friendly relations with a potential client base The analogous action for GitHub to Blizzard’s would be booting a user ICE doesn't like to maintain friendly ties with the latter. That hasn't happened.
- SolaceQuantum 7y ago
  Didn’t GitLab do this?
  - input_sh 7y ago
    As far as I know, not quite. GitLab modified their customer acceptance so that it gives them an option to refuse a client, saying that they will reach such a decision on a case-by-case basis: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/merge_requests/32614/diffs https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/merge_requests/... ...while Chef's CEO openly said that they will not renew their contract with ICE and CBP, as well as to donate the equivalent revenue of their current contracts to charities that help people impacted: https://blog.chef.io/an-important-update-from-chef/ https://blog.chef.io/an-important-update-from-chef/ > After deep introspection and dialog within Chef, we will not renew our current contracts with ICE and CBP when they expire over the next year. Chef will fulfill our full obligations under the current contracts.

claudeganon 7y ago

I’m fairly certain the actions themselves of the entity being protested are what’s driving the discontent here. People are upset about Hong Kong protestors being tortured and disappeared by police just like they are about migrants being treated the same way by ICE. It’s not it being your own government vs. a foreign government that’s at issue. It’s what they’re doing to people.