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That's pretty offensive statement. They aren't concentration camps, they are holding facilities. These people traveled there willingly. Those that were dragged
by s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
That's pretty offensive statement. They aren't concentration camps, they are holding facilities. These people traveled there willingly. Those that were dragged are children, and they were brought by adults who may not even be their parents.
The conditions and provisions those children are getting in those buildings are better than what they would be getting in the desert and with the adults they came with.
1/3 girls dragged across the border are raped.
You can't be mad at the building but be complacent with the root of the problem.
- adamch 7y agoI don't think it's offensive. Having listened to many survivors of the Holocaust, including my own grandparents, there are enough parallels that I feel comfortable with everything I've said. Here's my heuristic: if an organization locks children in cages where their employees sexually abuse them, it's probably a bad organization.
- sol_remmy2 7y agoAs an Israeli who also had grandparents who survived the Holocaust, this does not remotely compare. You compare this to Auschwitz?? These holding facilities are no different than those used in Asia, Europe, the Middle East, and Australia.
- adamch 7y agoBuckle up your seatbelt, I've got some bad news about the detention centers in Australia...
- LiNeXT 7y ago> Having listened to many survivors of the Holocaust Apparently you weren't paying attention.
- openasocket 7y agoIt pretty much follows the definition of a concentration camp. The vast majority of these individuals have not committed a crime (crossing the border to claim asylum is explicitly legal) and yet they are held indefinitely without bond, in poor conditions > You can't be mad at the building but be complacent with the root of the problem. I am mad at the root of the problem, which is why I'm disappointed that this administration continues to undercut foreign aid efforts to improve the conditions in central American countries.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 7y agoI want you to give me one example of a concentration camp in history where people willingly traveled to it..
- LiNeXT 7y ago> crossing the border to claim asylum is explicitly legal No, it isn't. You can file the application no matter how you entered or what your current status is, but that doesn't post-facto make an illegal entry suddenly legal.
- openasocket 7y agoTitle 8 Section 1158, in the first sentence: "Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title." Asylum seekers may be excused for illegal entry into the US. An asylum seeker can even use a fake passport to get through customs to apply for asylum: see Akinmade v. INS as an example.
- LiNeXT 7y ago> Asylum seekers may be excused for illegal entry into the US. An asylum seeker can even use a fake passport to get through customs to apply for asylum: see Akinmade v. INS as an example. This doesn't make the border crossing "explicitly legal," as you claimed, it just means that if you are granted asylum (which, I venture, most applicants are not, since the scope of asylum law is quite narrow), then your illegal entry will be disregarded.