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ICE aren't "the Nazis" and immigration enforcement isn't the Holocaust.
by LiNeXT 7y ago
ICE aren't "the Nazis" and immigration enforcement isn't the Holocaust.
- jonny_eh 7y agoI'm saying there are lines. I used an example that everyone should be able to agree is a line that should not have been crossed.
- Goladus 7y agoEveryone knows there are lines, and you just coincidentally made a Nazi analogy. Discussions about immigration (and the rhetoric of progressives in the US in general) is constantly plagued by inflammatory and inappropriate Nazi references. Maybe it was an honest mistake, but it's still a mistake.
- jonny_eh 7y agoCan you suggest a better example of a tech company taking on business that in retrospect isn't morally defensible?
- jariel 7y agoDow Chemical / Agent Orange. But like all things, it's complicated. We didn't know quite the fallout. Human life was simply valued less back in the day - this was a time when many cars still didn't even have seat belts.
- the_jeremy 7y agoThey made a fake university[1] to lure in foreigners on student visas, then arrested everyone who enrolled for not attending a real university, including some who had already transferred out after realizing it was fake. It's not the Holocaust, but it's not ethical. [1]:https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/11/27/ice-arrested-250-foreign-students-fake-university-metro-detroit/4277686002/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/11/27/i...
- dexen 7y agoThat fake university was Obama's program[1]. Are you now going to advocate deplatforming Barrack Obama? The fake university was a magnet for people who didn't want to show up to the classes - the gist of the program was to find student visa users who did not care at all to study; they just wanted to get in the USA. -- [1] started in january of 2016: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/11/27/university-farmington-ice-arrests-more-fake-michigan-college/4317788002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/11/27/univers...
- nodesocket 7y agoThanks for actually providing accurate facts and details instead of pure emotional outrage.
- the_jeremy 7y agoWhy does it matter if it's Obama's program? I don't think it's ethical. From your article: "Reddy said, though, that in some cases, students who transferred from the University of Farmington after realizing they didn't have classes on-site, were still arrested." It sounds like they realized they wouldn't get to attend classes at that university and switched and still got deported.
- klyrs 7y ago> That fake university was Obama's program[1]. Are you now going to advocate deplatforming Barrack Obama? As a citizen who caucused for Obama, I'm deeply disappointed in his policies surrounding immigration, cowardice on marijuana, broken promises around transparency and whistleblowers, and the exploitation of protected lands for oil and gas the world can't afford to burn. He's not a damned saint and whataboutism is intellectual laziness.
- jaywalk 7y agoThe university had "no teachers, classes, or educational services." The people who enrolled there were 100% trying to game the system. Is that ethical?