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> “It is expected behavior that the Location Services icon appears in the status bar when Location Services is enabled. The icon appears for system services tha
by rubbingalcohol 7y ago
> “It is expected behavior that the Location Services icon appears in the status bar when Location Services is enabled. The icon appears for system services that do not have a switch in Settings.”
My question then is WHY? If they allow granular control over some location collection settings, but not others, and the only way to disable background collection is to turn location off entirely, then doesn't this defeat the purpose of offering granular control at all? What possible reason could there be for having it set up this way?
In my ideal scenario, Maps would have location access when open or navigating but nothing else.
- mtgx 7y agoThey did this for a long time with backing up the "end-to-end encrypted iMessages" automatically to iCloud (where Apple and others could see them in plaintext) and no way to disable just iMessages from being backed up. Sometimes you just have to think this stuff is done on purpose by Apple for whatever reason, because it doesn't make much sense otherwise to "omit" something like that.
- DangerousPie 7y agoYour use case may be different but personally I just want to make sure that untrustworthy third party apps (Facebook, random games, etc) don't get location access. I'm fine with Apple services having access. So for me the way it is right now does everything I need.
- soperj 7y ago> I'm fine with Apple services having access. Why?
- jaywalk 7y agoBecause they provide a very real value. "Find my iPhone" for instance.
- earenndil 7y agoI would still like to have the ability to examine and toggle them each individually. Currently what I do is to turn on location services when I want to use a map app, and turn them back off once I'm done. But this is inconvenient.
- notnap 7y agowhat services would you like to keep location turned on then? Why do you trust them to have access all the time and at the same time you don't trust apple themselves for useful features like "find my phone"?
- inopinatus 7y agoSome folks (myself included) by default prefer to segment their trust by vendor, not by application, since it tends to be aligned anyway. For example, as per GP I'm fine with any Apple app having location access because by buying the phone I made an implicit decision to trust the company. In contrast, Facebook's stuff can fuck off into the black hole of mistrust they dug for themselves. Finer granularity of trust (+ve or -ve) occurs only in exceptional cases. As with so much in life (and in tech), the greatest process efficiency occurs when you standardise a common case and manage by exception.
- rubbingalcohol 7y agoStill doesn't answer why some Apple services have granular control and others don't. The implication in offering the controls is that you could control how the phone uses location data. Excluding some services from the controls negates the value of having controls at all.