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Assange isn't a whistle-blower. He is a third party that was given classified information. Manning wasn't a whistle-blower either, he (at the time) was a leake

Assange isn't a whistle-blower. He is a third party that was given classified information. Manning wasn't a whistle-blower either, he (at the time) was a leaker and didn't go through any of the official whistle-blower procedures to shield himself from prosecution. He also just data dumped everything he could find instead of leaking specific things.

Miner49er 7y ago
Whistleblower: One who reveals wrongdoing within an organization to the public or to those in positions of authority. By that definition everyone I listed is a whistleblower. Also, FYI, you should use proper pronouns regardless of how they identified at the time. It's still a form of misgendering and unnecessarily brings up the fact that they are transgender.
- tomschlick 7y ago
  > within an organization Key point there. Assange was not in the organization. At best he would be considered media in this case. Manning did not follow the proper steps to blow the whistle through the chain of command, and therefore was not given the legal protection that others would be. He didn't care what was leaked, he just wanted to do damage.
- GVIrish 7y ago
  Whistleblowing is about revealing specific wrongdoing, not data dumping all sorts of sensitive and damaging information that had nothing to do with the wrongdoing. So if there were a defense contractor who noticed embezzlement in nuclear missile program, but then dumped all of the plans and schematics for the weapons system on the internet, should that person experience no consequences? If someone was trying to expose medical malpractice just dumped thousands of innocent and people's medical records, should that be ok? Manning's case would've been infinitely stronger had she just leaked the helicopter video or other information that she reasonably believed were war crimes.

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Assange isn't a whistle-blower. He is a third party that was given classified information. Manning wasn't a whistle-blower either, he (at the time) was a leake

by tomschlick 7y ago

Miner49er 7y ago
Whistleblower: One who reveals wrongdoing within an organization to the public or to those in positions of authority. By that definition everyone I listed is a whistleblower. Also, FYI, you should use proper pronouns regardless of how they identified at the time. It's still a form of misgendering and unnecessarily brings up the fact that they are transgender.
- tomschlick 7y ago
  > within an organization Key point there. Assange was not in the organization. At best he would be considered media in this case. Manning did not follow the proper steps to blow the whistle through the chain of command, and therefore was not given the legal protection that others would be. He didn't care what was leaked, he just wanted to do damage.
- GVIrish 7y ago
  Whistleblowing is about revealing specific wrongdoing, not data dumping all sorts of sensitive and damaging information that had nothing to do with the wrongdoing. So if there were a defense contractor who noticed embezzlement in nuclear missile program, but then dumped all of the plans and schematics for the weapons system on the internet, should that person experience no consequences? If someone was trying to expose medical malpractice just dumped thousands of innocent and people's medical records, should that be ok? Manning's case would've been infinitely stronger had she just leaked the helicopter video or other information that she reasonably believed were war crimes.