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I am super sick of this meme. No, not every data point Google has on you is matched to an account and used for ads. Get real, friend. When Google DNS says they

by Xorlev 7y ago

I am super sick of this meme. No, not every data point Google has on you is matched to an account and used for ads. Get real, friend. When Google DNS says they keep templogs for 24-48h and anonymized permanent logs for analytics, that's what happens. I doubt I can convince you but the constant drumbeat of everything used for ads is just so annoying (and wrong)

JoeAltmaier 7y ago
If Google did not use every iota of information to help target ads, then somebody at Google is slacking. It's their core business. As a corporation, each employee is obliged to do their best to advance Google's goals. The employees are very smart, by and large. This all adds up to, every way conceivable to use information to target ads, is used that way. I'm not trying to be kind or unkind, cynical or mean. Its just the logic of the situation.
- judge2020 7y ago
  That's their business model but not everything they do is in support of that. The hundred or thousands of employees that works on GSuite-only products like Currents and Meet don't care about phoning home data for ad targeting purposes. The same goes for a multitude of other things they do, eg. hardware, cloud computing, security, mapping (as in the actual mapping; I know G maps shows ads), and probably also 99% of people on the Chrome/Android teams.
  - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
    And yet, the data they collect would reasonably be available to those in Google that do work in targeted ads. And they would know what to do with it.
    - judge2020 7y ago
      As per this whitepaper[0], data made by organizations (in "G Suite Core Services"[1]) is not available to their ad platform, and most likely includes all the related services that are limited to G Suite accounts (Hangouts Chat, Currents, Meet, Jamboard, etc.). > We do not scan for advertising purposes in Gmail or other G Suite services. Google does not collect or use data in G Suite services for advertising purposes. I mention the other divisions of Google because what their job title is means they aren't "obligated" to collect everything for use by the ad platform, as the parent implies. I also doubt much of the actual data is available to the ad platform. Do they know you visited console.cloud.google.com? Most likely via Chrome sync history and/or Google Analytics. Do they know whether or not your cloud project is running a single n1 instance or a fleet of c2 instances? I doubt it, especially because there's not much reason to encourage other cloud computing services to advertise to someone that's directly using a competing Google service. 0: https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-whitepaper/page-6.html https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-white... 1: https://gsuite.google.com/terms/user_features.html https://gsuite.google.com/terms/user_features.html

by Xorlev 7y ago

JoeAltmaier 7y ago

If Google did not use every iota of information to help target ads, then somebody at Google is slacking. It's their core business. As a corporation, each employee is obliged to do their best to advance Google's goals. The employees are very smart, by and large. This all adds up to, every way conceivable to use information to target ads, is used that way. I'm not trying to be kind or unkind, cynical or mean. Its just the logic of the situation.

judge2020 7y ago
That's their business model but not everything they do is in support of that. The hundred or thousands of employees that works on GSuite-only products like Currents and Meet don't care about phoning home data for ad targeting purposes. The same goes for a multitude of other things they do, eg. hardware, cloud computing, security, mapping (as in the actual mapping; I know G maps shows ads), and probably also 99% of people on the Chrome/Android teams.
- JoeAltmaier 7y ago
  And yet, the data they collect would reasonably be available to those in Google that do work in targeted ads. And they would know what to do with it.
  - judge2020 7y ago
    As per this whitepaper[0], data made by organizations (in "G Suite Core Services"[1]) is not available to their ad platform, and most likely includes all the related services that are limited to G Suite accounts (Hangouts Chat, Currents, Meet, Jamboard, etc.). > We do not scan for advertising purposes in Gmail or other G Suite services. Google does not collect or use data in G Suite services for advertising purposes. I mention the other divisions of Google because what their job title is means they aren't "obligated" to collect everything for use by the ad platform, as the parent implies. I also doubt much of the actual data is available to the ad platform. Do they know you visited console.cloud.google.com? Most likely via Chrome sync history and/or Google Analytics. Do they know whether or not your cloud project is running a single n1 instance or a fleet of c2 instances? I doubt it, especially because there's not much reason to encourage other cloud computing services to advertise to someone that's directly using a competing Google service. 0: https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-whitepaper/page-6.html https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-white... 1: https://gsuite.google.com/terms/user_features.html https://gsuite.google.com/terms/user_features.html