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The Google engineers who planted the phrases were running the Bing toolbar themselves. That part isn't in question.

by Encosia 16y ago

nailer 16y ago
So MS are saying Google themselves uploaded the data to MS by using Bing toolbar? Does Google agree their engineers did this?
- Encosia 16y ago
  Yes. From the original article yesterday: This all happened in December. When the experiment was ready, about 20 Google engineers were told to run the test queries from laptops at home, using Internet Explorer, with Suggested Sites and the Bing Toolbar both enabled. They were also told to click on the top results. They started on December 17. By December 31, some of the results started appearing on Bing.
  - nailer 16y ago
    No. There's a difference between having the toolbar installed but typing something into the google.com directly (which actually occurred) and typing something into the Bing toolbar.
    - Encosia 16y ago
      Even if you exclusively use Google's web interface to search, the Bing toolbar gathers anonymous data about your browsing (if you've got that option enabled). It's fairly clear about that when you install it. To my knowledge, all of these search engine toolbars gather statistics on a broader scale than specifically what's typed into their search fields, Google's included.
- anonymous246 16y ago
  Dude, I've seen your comments on this thread. Several of them are basically asking people to confirm facts everybody agrees on. You should come better prepared for the next discussion. Sorry to be an ass. But you're wasting my time on this site, since I have to wade through your questions to get to the interesting ones.
  - nailer 16y ago
    There's something most of HN are missing. You are indeed being rude by not letting me point it out: * Google having the Bing toolbar installed and entering the search into Bing toolbar is one thing (and I'd expect MS to be using the data) * Google having the Bing tolbar installed and entering the search into the Google hom page is a very different thing (and I'd expect MS to be using the data) Judging from the moderation in this thread, people seem to think the first happened. According to Google, it did not. No other source contravenes this. Sorry if you think me pointing this out is bad. Perhaps your efforts would be better reporting all the non-hacker stories on the front page?

The Google engineers who planted the phrases were running the Bing toolbar themselves. That part isn't in question.

by Encosia 16y ago

The Google engineers who planted the phrases were running the Bing toolbar themselves. That part isn't in question.

So MS are saying Google themselves uploaded the data to MS by using Bing toolbar? Does Google agree their engineers did this?

Encosia 16y ago
Yes. From the original article yesterday: This all happened in December. When the experiment was ready, about 20 Google engineers were told to run the test queries from laptops at home, using Internet Explorer, with Suggested Sites and the Bing Toolbar both enabled. They were also told to click on the top results. They started on December 17. By December 31, some of the results started appearing on Bing.
- nailer 16y ago
  No. There's a difference between having the toolbar installed but typing something into the google.com directly (which actually occurred) and typing something into the Bing toolbar.
  - Encosia 16y ago
    Even if you exclusively use Google's web interface to search, the Bing toolbar gathers anonymous data about your browsing (if you've got that option enabled). It's fairly clear about that when you install it. To my knowledge, all of these search engine toolbars gather statistics on a broader scale than specifically what's typed into their search fields, Google's included.
anonymous246 16y ago
Dude, I've seen your comments on this thread. Several of them are basically asking people to confirm facts everybody agrees on. You should come better prepared for the next discussion. Sorry to be an ass. But you're wasting my time on this site, since I have to wade through your questions to get to the interesting ones.
- nailer 16y ago
  There's something most of HN are missing. You are indeed being rude by not letting me point it out: * Google having the Bing toolbar installed and entering the search into Bing toolbar is one thing (and I'd expect MS to be using the data) * Google having the Bing tolbar installed and entering the search into the Google hom page is a very different thing (and I'd expect MS to be using the data) Judging from the moderation in this thread, people seem to think the first happened. According to Google, it did not. No other source contravenes this. Sorry if you think me pointing this out is bad. Perhaps your efforts would be better reporting all the non-hacker stories on the front page?