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goosehonk 7y ago
Generally: Founders: Bring your whole selves to work. Employees: great! That one guy: what a relief, because I’m literally a Nazi. Everybody: no. Leave that part at home. Guy: my rights are being trampled by a liberal conspiracy! Other person: my gender expression is the most important aspect of large-scale software development. Anyone who disagrees must be fired. Everyone: that doesn’t seem all that relevant, actually. Person: my rights are being trampled by a cis conspiracy! Everyone: rolling eyes
- greesil 7y ago
  Why is this being downvoted? Now it's flagged. This is ridiculous.
  - Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
    Because it's an extremely dishonest take on a highly political issue.
    - greesil 7y ago
      Isn't the more appropriate response to respond to the comment rather than downvote it? It doesn't seem to be a personal attack, or some other violation of the community guidelines.
      - goosehonk 7y ago
        I know my account is the one in green, but: you must be new here.
      - Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
        I'm not a moderator, but IMO, it was absolutely a violation of community guidelines. It was incredibly snarky, flamebaity, and was obviously written to start a political battle. The fact that it got flagged shows I'm definitely not alone in this thinking.
        goosehonk 7y ago
        I'm just giving you the straight dope on a few aspects of the organizational disaster that is google. The fact that you think it's incredible etc just shows what a basket case this company is.
        jhanschoo 7y ago
        If you want to give "straight dope" on a controversial issue, you don't do it by caricature without evidence. Instead you present incontrovertible evidence that proves your point.
        jeremyfranco 7y ago
        Evidence wasn't hard to find though... https://www.wired.com/story/the-dirty-war-over-diversity-inside-google/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-dirty-war-over-diversity-ins...
        jhanschoo 7y ago
        Then this should have been the comment. But this article isn't evidence of Google having a liberal orthodoxy. It supports instead the claim that Google is a politically charged workplace, and that diversity advocates working at Google were facing harassment.
        jeremyfranco 7y ago
        > Then this should have been the comment. I simply noticed that it took literally a single search on Google to get to know about it. Not trying to defend the OP. > But this article isn't evidence of Google having a liberal orthodoxy Or the opposite, if literally members of unpopular party work there and have that kind of power. It supports the poster thesis (phrased in a provocative way) that this kind of issues are not unknown at Google, either one way or the other. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crenshaw-calls-google-disturbing-after-employee-calls-ben-shapiro-a-nazi https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crenshaw-calls-googl... I guess the part of the original comment (now dead) that says (quoting) > That one guy: what a relief, because I’m literally a Nazi. > Everybody: no. Leave that part at home. > Guy: my rights are being trampled by a liberal conspiracy! is exposed here https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/google-sued-bias-claims-conservative-employees-1073061 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/google-sued-bias-clai...
    - jeremyfranco 7y ago
      > Because it's an extremely dishonest take on a highly political issue It is also plausible. Burying the head in the sand to avoid getting political is part of the problem, not of the solution.
  - libria 7y ago
    I think burying a comment may lend it some validity. Critiquing it is a better method of understanding or correcting it. Here's a censored version: Founders: Bring your whole selves to work. Employees: great! That one guy: what a relief, because I’m literally an unpopular-party member. Everybody: no. Leave that part at home. Guy: my rights are being trampled by a popular-party conspiracy! Other person: my unique identity is the most important aspect of large-scale software development. Anyone who disagrees must be fired. Everyone: that doesn’t seem all that relevant, actually. Person: my rights are being trampled by a majority identity conspiracy! Everyone: frustration

Generally: Founders: Bring your whole selves to work. Employees: great! That one guy: what a relief, because I’m literally a Nazi. Everybody: no. Leave that part at home. Guy: my rights are being trampled by a liberal conspiracy! Other person: my gender expression is the most important aspect of large-scale software development. Anyone who disagrees must be fired. Everyone: that doesn’t seem all that relevant, actually. Person: my rights are being trampled by a cis conspiracy! Everyone: rolling eyes

greesil 7y ago
Why is this being downvoted? Now it's flagged. This is ridiculous.
- Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
  Because it's an extremely dishonest take on a highly political issue.
  - greesil 7y ago
    Isn't the more appropriate response to respond to the comment rather than downvote it? It doesn't seem to be a personal attack, or some other violation of the community guidelines.
    - goosehonk 7y ago
      I know my account is the one in green, but: you must be new here.
    - Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
      I'm not a moderator, but IMO, it was absolutely a violation of community guidelines. It was incredibly snarky, flamebaity, and was obviously written to start a political battle. The fact that it got flagged shows I'm definitely not alone in this thinking.
      - goosehonk 7y ago
        I'm just giving you the straight dope on a few aspects of the organizational disaster that is google. The fact that you think it's incredible etc just shows what a basket case this company is.
        jhanschoo 7y ago
        If you want to give "straight dope" on a controversial issue, you don't do it by caricature without evidence. Instead you present incontrovertible evidence that proves your point.
        jeremyfranco 7y ago
        Evidence wasn't hard to find though... https://www.wired.com/story/the-dirty-war-over-diversity-inside-google/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-dirty-war-over-diversity-ins...
        jhanschoo 7y ago
        Then this should have been the comment. But this article isn't evidence of Google having a liberal orthodoxy. It supports instead the claim that Google is a politically charged workplace, and that diversity advocates working at Google were facing harassment.
        jeremyfranco 7y ago
        > Then this should have been the comment. I simply noticed that it took literally a single search on Google to get to know about it. Not trying to defend the OP. > But this article isn't evidence of Google having a liberal orthodoxy Or the opposite, if literally members of unpopular party work there and have that kind of power. It supports the poster thesis (phrased in a provocative way) that this kind of issues are not unknown at Google, either one way or the other. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crenshaw-calls-google-disturbing-after-employee-calls-ben-shapiro-a-nazi https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crenshaw-calls-googl... I guess the part of the original comment (now dead) that says (quoting) > That one guy: what a relief, because I’m literally a Nazi. > Everybody: no. Leave that part at home. > Guy: my rights are being trampled by a liberal conspiracy! is exposed here https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/google-sued-bias-claims-conservative-employees-1073061 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/google-sued-bias-clai...
  - jeremyfranco 7y ago
    > Because it's an extremely dishonest take on a highly political issue It is also plausible. Burying the head in the sand to avoid getting political is part of the problem, not of the solution.
- libria 7y ago
  I think burying a comment may lend it some validity. Critiquing it is a better method of understanding or correcting it. Here's a censored version: Founders: Bring your whole selves to work. Employees: great! That one guy: what a relief, because I’m literally an unpopular-party member. Everybody: no. Leave that part at home. Guy: my rights are being trampled by a popular-party conspiracy! Other person: my unique identity is the most important aspect of large-scale software development. Anyone who disagrees must be fired. Everyone: that doesn’t seem all that relevant, actually. Person: my rights are being trampled by a majority identity conspiracy! Everyone: frustration