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In Turkey, Keeping a Language of Whistles Alive

70 points by sinak 7y ago

Jun8 7y ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20068381 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20068381
aritmo 7y ago
There are many cultures around the world that have developed whistled languages, most likely independently. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistled_language https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistled_language
- jacobush 7y ago
  Most (all) of them are not what I would call languages, it's more like what writing is to spoken language. It's an encoding.
m00dy 7y ago
looks like Turkey has amazing nature too.
- FernandoTN 7y ago
  I recently came up with an article that promoted an "innovative" park, buzzwords aside, it seems like a great project that is ongoing in Istambul, Turkey. The Parkorman park looks amazing: https://www.archdaily.com/868082/drors-parkorman-park-in-istanbul-will-let-visitors-trampoline-through-the-treetops https://www.archdaily.com/868082/drors-parkorman-park-in-ist...
- Yptur 7y ago
  Turkey really does have amazing and diverse natural landscapes, if only the government was a bit less... the way it is
m00dy 7y ago
In the article, you will probably see a girl wearing a tshirt that says 'too hot to handle'. This is also an indication that American culture penetrating Turkish veins on north Anatolia.
- WilTimSon 7y ago
  I really don't think this is 'American culture penetrating Turkish veins'. I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of American culture invading Europe and Asia all across the continent, but this isn't it. It's just a mass-market t-shirt that made its way to a young Turkish girl. These are sold en masse everywhere, including in used clothing stores.
  - m00dy 7y ago
    How about the boy wearing Breaking Bad Tshirt in the other footage ? Is that also coincidence ?
    - saiya-jin 7y ago
      You can see older photos from places like Pakistan or Beirut during war with folks wearing t-shirts with various English signs. Heck, I've met folks in remote India with same that couldn't say more than 'hi', or not even that. If they are made in China in millions for 0.2$ a piece and sold everywhere, it doesn't say anything about any US culture penetration
      - danielscrubs 7y ago
        If Chinese characters in USA are not a sign of Chinese culture penetration, then we are on the same page.
  - wholepointofcc 7y ago
    > just a mass-market t-shirt The very idea of a "market" which is a "mass-market" and a "t-shirt" as a clothing item, which then become together a "mass-market t-shirt" (meaning globalised production chains, exploitative corporate governance, fast fashion, conspicuous consumption, etc) is already in itself an example of permeating "American culture".

70 points by sinak 7y ago

Jun8 7y ago

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20068381 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20068381

There are many cultures around the world that have developed whistled languages, most likely independently. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistled_language https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistled_language

jacobush 7y ago
Most (all) of them are not what I would call languages, it's more like what writing is to spoken language. It's an encoding.

m00dy 7y ago

looks like Turkey has amazing nature too.

FernandoTN 7y ago
I recently came up with an article that promoted an "innovative" park, buzzwords aside, it seems like a great project that is ongoing in Istambul, Turkey. The Parkorman park looks amazing: https://www.archdaily.com/868082/drors-parkorman-park-in-istanbul-will-let-visitors-trampoline-through-the-treetops https://www.archdaily.com/868082/drors-parkorman-park-in-ist...
Yptur 7y ago
Turkey really does have amazing and diverse natural landscapes, if only the government was a bit less... the way it is

m00dy 7y ago

In the article, you will probably see a girl wearing a tshirt that says 'too hot to handle'. This is also an indication that American culture penetrating Turkish veins on north Anatolia.

WilTimSon 7y ago
I really don't think this is 'American culture penetrating Turkish veins'. I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of American culture invading Europe and Asia all across the continent, but this isn't it. It's just a mass-market t-shirt that made its way to a young Turkish girl. These are sold en masse everywhere, including in used clothing stores.
- m00dy 7y ago
  How about the boy wearing Breaking Bad Tshirt in the other footage ? Is that also coincidence ?
  - saiya-jin 7y ago
    You can see older photos from places like Pakistan or Beirut during war with folks wearing t-shirts with various English signs. Heck, I've met folks in remote India with same that couldn't say more than 'hi', or not even that. If they are made in China in millions for 0.2$ a piece and sold everywhere, it doesn't say anything about any US culture penetration
    - danielscrubs 7y ago
      If Chinese characters in USA are not a sign of Chinese culture penetration, then we are on the same page.
- wholepointofcc 7y ago
  > just a mass-market t-shirt The very idea of a "market" which is a "mass-market" and a "t-shirt" as a clothing item, which then become together a "mass-market t-shirt" (meaning globalised production chains, exploitative corporate governance, fast fashion, conspicuous consumption, etc) is already in itself an example of permeating "American culture".