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> I think that it's only a matter of time until Asian women are treated the same way as Asian men. Once you've managed to close the gender gap in engineering, y
by fennecfoxen 7y ago
> I think that it's only a matter of time until Asian women are treated the same way as Asian men. Once you've managed to close the gender gap in engineering, you have a new problem to deal with -- a lack of diversity among women engineers in regards to race and socio-economic class.
The blanket catch-all term "Asian" is not doing this conversation any favors. You assert a monoculture, but Asia is a huge region with many cultures, not a monolith. South Korea is unlike India is unlike the Philippines is unlike Vietnam is unlike Iran is unlike China.
Can you narrow this down so we understand what kind of monoculture you're actually talking about?
- uwuhn 7y agoThe terminology used by modern institutions is vague for a reason. Being too specific is excessively and indefensibly discriminatory.
- Jamwinner 7y agoI am not sure I grok your reasoning. How is being specific 'excessively and indefensibly discrimintory'? Honest question, your words are strong.
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- jki275 7y agoIt's accurate so far as the discrimination is concerned. Most of those doing the discrimination don't even know or understand that "Asia" is a big place with a lot of different cultures.
- int_19h 7y agoThey're talking about the American social construct of "Asians". Which is just like any other racial classification - it is a meaningful division solely because people make it real by discriminating along those lines.
- Buge 7y agoIf we can't say "Asian" then let's also stop saying "black" and "white".
- fennecfoxen 7y agoOne is quite welcome to say "Asian" in the abstract. It's the part where one says that "Asian" is an socio-ethnic monoculture in practice that is uninformative. At the very least, name the Asians you're talking about. India and China, for instance, seem to have a lot more representation among US programmers than other Asian nations.
- filoleg 7y agoSure, but the same thing can be said about white people as well. Somehow, there is a disproportionate representation of slavic/eastern european people in top tier tech and fintech jobs, but it seems to fly under most people's radars when it comes to that kind of conerns. So we are back at ground zero with nothing useful coming out of this, now what?