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Honestly, I'm with you on this one. Sundar seems like a good maintainer of the status quo and that's probably wise since the business keeps growing (growing rev

Honestly, I'm with you on this one. Sundar seems like a good maintainer of the status quo and that's probably wise since the business keeps growing (growing revenue, growing market cap and growing free cash flow), but Google's evolution on cloud infrastructure/services and hardware are honestly kind of lame. I mentioned those two because they seem to be their big bets now. When compared to Satya who is thriving with Microsoft, Sundar looks mediocre at best. I don't mean that in a bad way. Perhaps Google doesn't need to have those tectonic changes to produce value. In that case, Sundar's reserved and low-key profile makes more sense, but don't expect a high profile, exuberant and innovation-driven leadership. I think it's clear he is not that type of leader.

MikeTheGreat 7y ago
After having read [that Quiet book](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet:_The_Power_of_Introverts_in_a_World_That_Can't_Stop_Talking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet:_The_Power_of_Introverts...) I think it's fascinating that "high profile, exuberant" are conflated with "innovation-driven leadership". To be clear - I'm not criticizing this particular post or person (whoisjuan, anyways? :) ), but I think it's worth noting these little hints that outgoing and extroverted are thought to be synonymous with "good leadership" (in the US, at least)
- microtherion 7y ago
  I think Tim Cook might be subject to extra criticism for similar reasons.
- planetzero 7y ago
  "I think it's worth noting these little hints that outgoing and extroverted are thought to be synonymous with "good leadership" (in the US, at least)" I don't think it's synonymous, but it's required. To be a good leader, you need to enjoy being around and understanding people. Most introverted people don't really enjoy either. I've had many introverted managers and they all were horrible: lack of communication which went hand-in-hand with passive aggressive behavior.
  - hanse00 7y ago
    Leadership is a skill to learn, just like programming, writing, or most other things really. People who are introverts at heart can learn to become just as good managers as those who aren't. It may come less naturally, I couldn't say, but it's definitely possible.
    - aspaceman 7y ago
      I think their point is that it's a hard skill for introverts to learn because they don't enjoy it. It values things they don't care about (or usually don't). In that way, when you have an introverted manager, it's usually the bad kind.

MikeTheGreat 7y ago

After having read [that Quiet book](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet:_The_Power_of_Introverts_in_a_World_That_Can't_Stop_Talking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet:_The_Power_of_Introverts...) I think it's fascinating that "high profile, exuberant" are conflated with "innovation-driven leadership". To be clear - I'm not criticizing this particular post or person (whoisjuan, anyways? :) ), but I think it's worth noting these little hints that outgoing and extroverted are thought to be synonymous with "good leadership" (in the US, at least)

microtherion 7y ago
I think Tim Cook might be subject to extra criticism for similar reasons.
planetzero 7y ago
"I think it's worth noting these little hints that outgoing and extroverted are thought to be synonymous with "good leadership" (in the US, at least)" I don't think it's synonymous, but it's required. To be a good leader, you need to enjoy being around and understanding people. Most introverted people don't really enjoy either. I've had many introverted managers and they all were horrible: lack of communication which went hand-in-hand with passive aggressive behavior.
- hanse00 7y ago
  Leadership is a skill to learn, just like programming, writing, or most other things really. People who are introverts at heart can learn to become just as good managers as those who aren't. It may come less naturally, I couldn't say, but it's definitely possible.
  - aspaceman 7y ago
    I think their point is that it's a hard skill for introverts to learn because they don't enjoy it. It values things they don't care about (or usually don't). In that way, when you have an introverted manager, it's usually the bad kind.