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Still waiting for an option to disable "drafts" (channels all of a sudden jumping to the top of the channel list)

by agluszak 7y ago

ceejayoz 7y ago
I'd be 100% fine with drafts if it cloned the channel listing instead of moving it.
- agluszak 7y ago
  I wonder if there exists a single person happy with the current state of affairs other then the one who designed it
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
  - baddox 7y ago
    There's no reason to suspect that the people who designed it are happy with it either.
- OJFord 7y ago
  I provided that /feedback as soon as it rolled out (to me) I guess 6mo ago. I even got a reply along the lines that it was totally reasonable and eminently sensible, and yet here we are.
  - jdnenej 7y ago
    I provided feedback to slack once and got a reply similar to that. I wonder if they say that just to make you feel good and then throw the feedback in the bin.
pizza234 7y ago
I actually like that; it reminds me to cleanup after myself :-)
saltcured 7y ago
Ha, I wish I could disable "threads" so nobody else can use them...
- beatgammit 7y ago
  I'm glad it's not just me. Threads are terrible and hide potentially important information.
  - nitrogen 7y ago
    Just to provide a counterpoint, threads are very useful for channels with hundreds of members, so that anyone can ask a question but the responses don't make other questions invisible. In that case, the lack of threads would hide important information.
    - munk-a 7y ago
      Is this in the context of a public slack? For our internal slack I'd strongly question why questions needed to be raised in a channel with so many people - at my office we have two channels that most people are in, a #general for company announcement and releases and #random. Otherwise I think dedicated team interaction channels are the biggest of ours and we try and keep those pretty small still.
      - brown9-2 7y ago
        For an internal Slack with thousands of users across many locations it can be pretty common to have channels with hundreds of people in it.
    - saltcured 7y ago
      In that situation, I think I would go insane, or resign to preserve my sanity! Our slack channels have at most a dozen active members and my channel list has approximately a dozen channels with permutations of the same dozen people organized topically. I have turned off almost all notifications as they are so ridiculous and look at the sidebar once in a while to see which channels are active. I consider slack content ephemeral, even if slack disagrees. If I want to track issues, I use an issue tracker. If I want a threaded conversation, I'd probably write an email still. If I want to find content, I search a wiki or an email archive. My preference for threads is as appears in my old school mail client or my fading memories of the "trn" threaded news reader for usenet. Threads do not hide messages, they only reorder them into a hierarchical index. It is easy to move back up the index to skim prior content in the tree, but it is also trivial to press a key and jump to the next unread message sorted first by thread and next by message time (to break ties or decide which thread to visit next after exhausting one). Recently I had the absurd situation of someone using threaded replies in a direct message channel. It was astounding to me that this person thought this was a good idea, and also that the slack UX could so completely obfuscate an attempt at communication...
barrkel 7y ago
Your mistake is showing a channel list. Hide unread channels; it's the only way to use Slack IMO.
- cortesoft 7y ago
  You mean hide read channels? If you hide unread, how will you find your new messages?
  - barrkel 7y ago
    Yes, sorry
    - paulintrognon 7y ago
      You can edit your comment to fix it
      - barrkel 7y ago
        Not after 5 hours you can't. The cut off is 60 minutes. I've been on this site since 2007, I've been around the block a few times ;)
- anthonybsd 7y ago
  Wow. Thank you! 4+ years of using slack and this is one of a genuinely useful things I just learned.
  - t-writescode 7y ago
    and star channels you need fast access to :) you can star people, as well!
- driverdan 7y ago
  If you're in so many channels that this is a problem then you have too many channels.
munk-a 7y ago
I've been loving their responsiveness lately /s. I `ctrl-k` jump to another convo and start typing and the lag between `ctrl-k` closing and switching to the new convo is enough that I end up typing a few characters into the prior conversation - then I need to jump back to clear out the draft. Their channel listing is generally crap though, I gave up on trying to navigate it and just use `ctrl-k` jumping for everything, which isn't terrible because it means I spend less time on the mouse.
- core-questions 7y ago
  It's hilarious to think that there's almost nothing the Slack client is doing that a fat desktop app couldn't trivially do with nearly zero latency in 1999 in 1/20th the amount of RAM.
  - munk-a 7y ago
    If someone built an emacs plu-(pardon me a moment, * googles furiously * , * laughs * ) Okay, someone built an emacs plugin for slack[1], it doesn't look like a very usable version of slack, but I'm pretty sure it'd be quite possible to fix this up a bit, prettify the UI, and end up with a much more performant version. 1. https://github.com/yuya373/emacs-slack https://github.com/yuya373/emacs-slack

Still waiting for an option to disable "drafts" (channels all of a sudden jumping to the top of the channel list)

ceejayoz 7y ago

I'd be 100% fine with drafts if it cloned the channel listing instead of moving it.

agluszak 7y ago
I wonder if there exists a single person happy with the current state of affairs other then the one who designed it
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- baddox 7y ago
  There's no reason to suspect that the people who designed it are happy with it either.
OJFord 7y ago
I provided that /feedback as soon as it rolled out (to me) I guess 6mo ago. I even got a reply along the lines that it was totally reasonable and eminently sensible, and yet here we are.
- jdnenej 7y ago
  I provided feedback to slack once and got a reply similar to that. I wonder if they say that just to make you feel good and then throw the feedback in the bin.

pizza234 7y ago

I actually like that; it reminds me to cleanup after myself :-)

saltcured 7y ago

Ha, I wish I could disable "threads" so nobody else can use them...

beatgammit 7y ago
I'm glad it's not just me. Threads are terrible and hide potentially important information.
- nitrogen 7y ago
  Just to provide a counterpoint, threads are very useful for channels with hundreds of members, so that anyone can ask a question but the responses don't make other questions invisible. In that case, the lack of threads would hide important information.
  - munk-a 7y ago
    Is this in the context of a public slack? For our internal slack I'd strongly question why questions needed to be raised in a channel with so many people - at my office we have two channels that most people are in, a #general for company announcement and releases and #random. Otherwise I think dedicated team interaction channels are the biggest of ours and we try and keep those pretty small still.
    - brown9-2 7y ago
      For an internal Slack with thousands of users across many locations it can be pretty common to have channels with hundreds of people in it.
  - saltcured 7y ago
    In that situation, I think I would go insane, or resign to preserve my sanity! Our slack channels have at most a dozen active members and my channel list has approximately a dozen channels with permutations of the same dozen people organized topically. I have turned off almost all notifications as they are so ridiculous and look at the sidebar once in a while to see which channels are active. I consider slack content ephemeral, even if slack disagrees. If I want to track issues, I use an issue tracker. If I want a threaded conversation, I'd probably write an email still. If I want to find content, I search a wiki or an email archive. My preference for threads is as appears in my old school mail client or my fading memories of the "trn" threaded news reader for usenet. Threads do not hide messages, they only reorder them into a hierarchical index. It is easy to move back up the index to skim prior content in the tree, but it is also trivial to press a key and jump to the next unread message sorted first by thread and next by message time (to break ties or decide which thread to visit next after exhausting one). Recently I had the absurd situation of someone using threaded replies in a direct message channel. It was astounding to me that this person thought this was a good idea, and also that the slack UX could so completely obfuscate an attempt at communication...

barrkel 7y ago

Your mistake is showing a channel list. Hide unread channels; it's the only way to use Slack IMO.

cortesoft 7y ago
You mean hide read channels? If you hide unread, how will you find your new messages?
- barrkel 7y ago
  Yes, sorry
  - paulintrognon 7y ago
    You can edit your comment to fix it
    - barrkel 7y ago
      Not after 5 hours you can't. The cut off is 60 minutes. I've been on this site since 2007, I've been around the block a few times ;)
anthonybsd 7y ago
Wow. Thank you! 4+ years of using slack and this is one of a genuinely useful things I just learned.
- t-writescode 7y ago
  and star channels you need fast access to :) you can star people, as well!
driverdan 7y ago
If you're in so many channels that this is a problem then you have too many channels.

munk-a 7y ago

I've been loving their responsiveness lately /s. I `ctrl-k` jump to another convo and start typing and the lag between `ctrl-k` closing and switching to the new convo is enough that I end up typing a few characters into the prior conversation - then I need to jump back to clear out the draft. Their channel listing is generally crap though, I gave up on trying to navigate it and just use `ctrl-k` jumping for everything, which isn't terrible because it means I spend less time on the mouse.

core-questions 7y ago
It's hilarious to think that there's almost nothing the Slack client is doing that a fat desktop app couldn't trivially do with nearly zero latency in 1999 in 1/20th the amount of RAM.
- munk-a 7y ago
  If someone built an emacs plu-(pardon me a moment, * googles furiously * , * laughs * ) Okay, someone built an emacs plugin for slack[1], it doesn't look like a very usable version of slack, but I'm pretty sure it'd be quite possible to fix this up a bit, prettify the UI, and end up with a much more performant version. 1. https://github.com/yuya373/emacs-slack https://github.com/yuya373/emacs-slack