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Google's AutoML produces black box models that are only available over a network call. This services seems to produces downloadable models, and a notebook with

Google's AutoML produces black box models that are only available over a network call. This services seems to produces downloadable models, and a notebook with Python code that creates the model. If that is the case, this is substantially better than GCP's offering. AWS consistently releases similar products after GCP... but they are much more well-thought-out, as AWS has to support them indefinitely...

newusername2 7y ago
GCP supports training scikit / xgboost/ Tensorflow models and exporting them to Cloud Storage for use elsewhere. More here: https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/scikit/custom-pipeline https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/scikit/custom-pipeli... https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/algorithms/xgboost-start https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/algorithms/xgboost-s... https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/tensorflow/getting-started-keras https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/tensorflow/getting-s... Creating custom notebook containers is now also supported with AI Platform: https://cloud.google.com/ai-platform/notebooks/docs/custom-container https://cloud.google.com/ai-platform/notebooks/docs/custom-c... Disclaimer: I work for Google.
- streetcat1 7y ago
  Right, but your automl solution is using Tensorflow, no? (even for automl-tables).
elithrar 7y ago
I’m not sure why the other post was marked dead, but AutoML models can be exported - you can export them to TFLite format[0] and then run them on edge devices, such as a SparkFun Edge[1] or a Coral SoC / board. [0]: https://cloud.google.com/vision/automl/docs/export-edge#export_to_devices https://cloud.google.com/vision/automl/docs/export-edge#expo... [1]: https://www.sparkfun.com/categories/tags/tensorflow https://www.sparkfun.com/categories/tags/tensorflow
- ckvamme 7y ago
  You can also export your model as a server within a Docker container: https://cloud.google.com/automl-tables/docs/model-export https://cloud.google.com/automl-tables/docs/model-export
tonyhb 7y ago
Can we stop with the Google FUD re shutdowns? Browsing hacker news to any post about Google at any time in the past year you'll only ever see discussions on how "google shuts things down". I get the trope, you want upvotes, it's an easy joke, and you can say it without real affliction at this point, but can we instead discuss the technical merit at hand — in this case AWS? In this specific case, as noted by several other comments, you can also export GCP models.
- rat9988 7y ago
  Unfortunately what you consider to be a joke for upvotes, is something I see as a major business threat, and a downside for any future deal with google.
mark_l_watson 7y ago
I agree, it was good to see the option to generate Python code that can be reused, tweaked, etc.

newusername2 7y ago

GCP supports training scikit / xgboost/ Tensorflow models and exporting them to Cloud Storage for use elsewhere. More here: https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/scikit/custom-pipeline https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/scikit/custom-pipeli... https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/algorithms/xgboost-start https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/algorithms/xgboost-s... https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/tensorflow/getting-started-keras https://cloud.google.com/ml-engine/docs/tensorflow/getting-s... Creating custom notebook containers is now also supported with AI Platform: https://cloud.google.com/ai-platform/notebooks/docs/custom-container https://cloud.google.com/ai-platform/notebooks/docs/custom-c... Disclaimer: I work for Google.

streetcat1 7y ago
Right, but your automl solution is using Tensorflow, no? (even for automl-tables).

elithrar 7y ago

I’m not sure why the other post was marked dead, but AutoML models can be exported - you can export them to TFLite format[0] and then run them on edge devices, such as a SparkFun Edge[1] or a Coral SoC / board. [0]: https://cloud.google.com/vision/automl/docs/export-edge#export_to_devices https://cloud.google.com/vision/automl/docs/export-edge#expo... [1]: https://www.sparkfun.com/categories/tags/tensorflow https://www.sparkfun.com/categories/tags/tensorflow

ckvamme 7y ago
You can also export your model as a server within a Docker container: https://cloud.google.com/automl-tables/docs/model-export https://cloud.google.com/automl-tables/docs/model-export

tonyhb 7y ago

Can we stop with the Google FUD re shutdowns? Browsing hacker news to any post about Google at any time in the past year you'll only ever see discussions on how "google shuts things down". I get the trope, you want upvotes, it's an easy joke, and you can say it without real affliction at this point, but can we instead discuss the technical merit at hand — in this case AWS? In this specific case, as noted by several other comments, you can also export GCP models.

rat9988 7y ago
Unfortunately what you consider to be a joke for upvotes, is something I see as a major business threat, and a downside for any future deal with google.

mark_l_watson 7y ago

I agree, it was good to see the option to generate Python code that can be reused, tweaked, etc.