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Also, isn't hemp-derived CBD more or less inert? My understanding is that there's some evidence for positive psychological effects from cannabis-derived CBD but

Also, isn't hemp-derived CBD more or less inert? My understanding is that there's some evidence for positive psychological effects from cannabis-derived CBD but not for hemp-derived.

gdubs 7y ago
Hemp and cannabis are the same thing. So much so that if your crop turns out “hot”, then you’ve accidentally just grown marijuana.
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  Got any links on that? I've read that hemp crops has been known to remove THC from cannabis, course I need to figure out where I read that from too.
  - amphibian87 7y ago
    I've heard they grow the same strains but harvest very early. Additionally, there are strains that have been bred to only have CBD. So both are correct.
  - gdubs 7y ago
    Sure: https://phys.org/news/2019-02-hemp-marijuana.html https://phys.org/news/2019-02-hemp-marijuana.html There are some questions around whether the “entourage effect” is beneficial with CBD. In other words, does the presence of THC and various other compounds make CBD oil more effective for x or y (vs pure isolates of just CBD). But “industrial hemp” really just means cannabis with a THC content below a federally determined guideline. And that’s why it needs to be tested for being “hot”. Many people lose their crops because they test hot and find themselves with smokable weed.
    - giancarlostoro 7y ago
      Interesting, I hadn't heard of this before.
sigstoat 7y ago
CBD is a single molecule (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol ). it doesn't matter where you get that molecule from, or if you synthesize it from raw chemical feedstocks.
- munk-a 7y ago
  CBD effectiveness for migraines (the only use I'm familiar with) is greatly decreased if taken outside of the presence of any THC. Honestly the science on this isn't in because the funding has never been available.
  - sigstoat 7y ago
    i'm entirely open to believing that! there are a huge number of cannabidiol compounds in the plants, and teasing them apart is a very recent endeavor. (it's also totally orthogonal to my claim.)
asdff 7y ago
CBD is CBD no matter it's source but it is possible to isomerize under certain vaporization conditions into Δ8-THC which will get you buzzed at least.

Also, isn't hemp-derived CBD more or less inert? My understanding is that there's some evidence for positive psychological effects from cannabis-derived CBD but not for hemp-derived.

gdubs 7y ago

Hemp and cannabis are the same thing. So much so that if your crop turns out “hot”, then you’ve accidentally just grown marijuana.

giancarlostoro 7y ago
Got any links on that? I've read that hemp crops has been known to remove THC from cannabis, course I need to figure out where I read that from too.
- amphibian87 7y ago
  I've heard they grow the same strains but harvest very early. Additionally, there are strains that have been bred to only have CBD. So both are correct.
- gdubs 7y ago
  Sure: https://phys.org/news/2019-02-hemp-marijuana.html https://phys.org/news/2019-02-hemp-marijuana.html There are some questions around whether the “entourage effect” is beneficial with CBD. In other words, does the presence of THC and various other compounds make CBD oil more effective for x or y (vs pure isolates of just CBD). But “industrial hemp” really just means cannabis with a THC content below a federally determined guideline. And that’s why it needs to be tested for being “hot”. Many people lose their crops because they test hot and find themselves with smokable weed.
  - giancarlostoro 7y ago
    Interesting, I hadn't heard of this before.

sigstoat 7y ago

CBD is a single molecule (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol ). it doesn't matter where you get that molecule from, or if you synthesize it from raw chemical feedstocks.

munk-a 7y ago
CBD effectiveness for migraines (the only use I'm familiar with) is greatly decreased if taken outside of the presence of any THC. Honestly the science on this isn't in because the funding has never been available.
- sigstoat 7y ago
  i'm entirely open to believing that! there are a huge number of cannabidiol compounds in the plants, and teasing them apart is a very recent endeavor. (it's also totally orthogonal to my claim.)

asdff 7y ago

CBD is CBD no matter it's source but it is possible to isomerize under certain vaporization conditions into Δ8-THC which will get you buzzed at least.