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Watching Firefox sinking to essentially licensing its name like an obsolete fashion brand is sad.

nothrabannosir 7y ago
Whatever it takes to get reduce their reliance on Google. Mozilla’s goals are at odds with the direction in which Google is taking Chrome, so their dependency on Google is unhealthy at best. Money is a necessary evil, choices must be made.
- dastx 7y ago
  This. And since I've been looking for a new VPN provider after recent issues with PIA and NordVPN, I'd be happy to pay Mozilla for it. I've also heard a lot of good things about Mullvad so I'm definitely a customer when it's available here.
  - input_sh 7y ago
    I feel the same way. I still have a PIA subscription for a few months, which I'm now planning on using until this becomes available in more regions (+ on more platforms, Linux and Android in my case), but as soon as it does, I'll be happy to switch over.
basch 7y ago
It's a great idea to use Firefox like Wirecutter, as a recommendation for the best of each service type. Combine that with some thin interface over the top, like an OS, to control all the services you subscribe to with unified billing. Password leaks, manager, file sharing, bookmark sync, vpn, dns, newsfeed. Now a new person starting out on the internet doesnt need to learn about haveibeenpwned, dropbox, mullvad, cloudflare, and facebook/pocket. They can let Firefox (hopefully) select the best of each product type, and white label it as part of the Firefox family.
- johnnycab 7y ago
  >t's a great idea to use Firefox like Wirecutter I feel we have reached peak Firefox. I have no qualms about supporting Mozilla by going with their VPN offering, even it costs a little more. I don't particularly have any objections to some of the recent features like Monitor, DoH, Sync etc. Once the rollout of their VPN product is complete, sometime next year, I would expect them to work with what they have at hand, rather than having too many balls in the air ie. instead of chasing down Chrome or integrating even more services, I hope they will concentrate on staying close to their values and committed to strengthening the core products.
- heavyset_go 7y ago
  > newsfeed I must have missed this, what RSS solution have they put out?
  - basch 7y ago
    Pocket, their competitor to MSN and Facebook and Reddit. Lets be real, MOST people are consuming from one of those three feeds daily.
    - heavyset_go 7y ago
      Does Pocket do feeds now? The last time I looked it was bookmark manager or something.
unethical_ban 7y ago
Another way to look at it: Watching Firefox leverage its reputation as a privacy and security advocate is helpful for many people who care, but are not technically inclined.

Whatever it takes to get reduce their reliance on Google. Mozilla’s goals are at odds with the direction in which Google is taking Chrome, so their dependency on Google is unhealthy at best. Money is a necessary evil, choices must be made.

dastx 7y ago
This. And since I've been looking for a new VPN provider after recent issues with PIA and NordVPN, I'd be happy to pay Mozilla for it. I've also heard a lot of good things about Mullvad so I'm definitely a customer when it's available here.
- input_sh 7y ago
  I feel the same way. I still have a PIA subscription for a few months, which I'm now planning on using until this becomes available in more regions (+ on more platforms, Linux and Android in my case), but as soon as it does, I'll be happy to switch over.

basch 7y ago

It's a great idea to use Firefox like Wirecutter, as a recommendation for the best of each service type. Combine that with some thin interface over the top, like an OS, to control all the services you subscribe to with unified billing. Password leaks, manager, file sharing, bookmark sync, vpn, dns, newsfeed. Now a new person starting out on the internet doesnt need to learn about haveibeenpwned, dropbox, mullvad, cloudflare, and facebook/pocket. They can let Firefox (hopefully) select the best of each product type, and white label it as part of the Firefox family.

johnnycab 7y ago
>t's a great idea to use Firefox like Wirecutter I feel we have reached peak Firefox. I have no qualms about supporting Mozilla by going with their VPN offering, even it costs a little more. I don't particularly have any objections to some of the recent features like Monitor, DoH, Sync etc. Once the rollout of their VPN product is complete, sometime next year, I would expect them to work with what they have at hand, rather than having too many balls in the air ie. instead of chasing down Chrome or integrating even more services, I hope they will concentrate on staying close to their values and committed to strengthening the core products.
heavyset_go 7y ago
> newsfeed I must have missed this, what RSS solution have they put out?
- basch 7y ago
  Pocket, their competitor to MSN and Facebook and Reddit. Lets be real, MOST people are consuming from one of those three feeds daily.
  - heavyset_go 7y ago
    Does Pocket do feeds now? The last time I looked it was bookmark manager or something.

unethical_ban 7y ago

Another way to look at it: Watching Firefox leverage its reputation as a privacy and security advocate is helpful for many people who care, but are not technically inclined.