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Your comment may read as condescending or snarky but I was wondering the same thing. Then I went and looked at a couple of extensions and the cheapest was $2,00

Your comment may read as condescending or snarky but I was wondering the same thing. Then I went and looked at a couple of extensions and the cheapest was $2,000. The button says "Buy extension" and right above the button it says "Subscription will renew in one year". Is that for updates or what? At the bottom of the page it says "Kuesa 3D Runtime may be used as a tool in the creation of applications. To incorporate it as a library into an application and sell on as a commercial application, ask us for Kuesa 3D Studio. Read the complete EULA." What am I buying? Am I just buying the privilege to be able to develop with their proprietary software but I can't actually distribute it? Also, why is there a link to github. Is this open source? I'm so confused. I shouldn't have to read a complete EULA to get a basic understanding and I shouldn't have to already know what something is to purchase it in a marketplace. Marketplaces are for discoverability.

zaroth 7y ago
Well I think in this case the price may indicate it’s a fairly specialized tool. I’m not sure the benefit of putting something like that on a marketplace, since anyone spending $2,000 on Kuesa definitely knows where to find it already... I don’t do anything even close to this space, but I found https://www.kdab.com/kuesa/ https://www.kdab.com/kuesa/ was a fairly good overview of their offering, as far as these pages typically go.
- blondin 7y ago
  wow this reminds me of borland delphi and mfc components and libraries. now with subscription on top of it. it might actually work because it did before for highly specialized gui components.
rumanator 7y ago
> What am I buying? Am I just buying the privilege to be able to develop with their proprietary software but I can't actually distribute it? Frontend developers have at their disposal template stores where they can purchase ready-made components and templates to include in their projects. The rationale is that buying specialized web components saves development time and budget. This isn't any different.
detaro 7y ago
The cheapest/only paid one that put a price in the store. That's the initial problem they clearly have (aside from it being fairly bare-bones design and feature-wise): The big players in the ecosystem have their own sales systems, often quite specialized products and thus only a nominal presence in the store pointing you to them: E.g. Felgo has the closest to a commercial component library, but they don't sell that through the store but just have the free level there and a pointer to their own site. Kuesa seems complex enough that you'd probably contact them for a demo and a more conventional enterprise sales process anyways. Or maybe someone who wouldn't do that might actually buy it there. The small ones that probably would like a store don't have products yet because there wasn't a store until now. Or maybe didn't have access to Qt-the-company to get into the launch. I assume that's why they've seeded it with a bunch of Open-Source libraries too, to at least give it some discovery value. A store has been asked for a bunch, and it's not as weird as GP makes it out (tons of sites sell HTML/JS components, game engines have stores for assets/scripts, ...), we'll see if it actually works out.
ausjke 7y ago
a simply "how" & "why" at HN will be deemed as "snarky" easily? I wonder "how" and "why" a lot and thought it's a quick way to start a constructive(provocative, but not negative) discussion, not sure why some of readers here are so easily got offended and started to down-vote, well I'm used to it nowadays.

zaroth 7y ago

Well I think in this case the price may indicate it’s a fairly specialized tool. I’m not sure the benefit of putting something like that on a marketplace, since anyone spending $2,000 on Kuesa definitely knows where to find it already... I don’t do anything even close to this space, but I found https://www.kdab.com/kuesa/ https://www.kdab.com/kuesa/ was a fairly good overview of their offering, as far as these pages typically go.

blondin 7y ago
wow this reminds me of borland delphi and mfc components and libraries. now with subscription on top of it. it might actually work because it did before for highly specialized gui components.

rumanator 7y ago

> What am I buying? Am I just buying the privilege to be able to develop with their proprietary software but I can't actually distribute it? Frontend developers have at their disposal template stores where they can purchase ready-made components and templates to include in their projects. The rationale is that buying specialized web components saves development time and budget. This isn't any different.

detaro 7y ago

The cheapest/only paid one that put a price in the store. That's the initial problem they clearly have (aside from it being fairly bare-bones design and feature-wise): The big players in the ecosystem have their own sales systems, often quite specialized products and thus only a nominal presence in the store pointing you to them: E.g. Felgo has the closest to a commercial component library, but they don't sell that through the store but just have the free level there and a pointer to their own site. Kuesa seems complex enough that you'd probably contact them for a demo and a more conventional enterprise sales process anyways. Or maybe someone who wouldn't do that might actually buy it there. The small ones that probably would like a store don't have products yet because there wasn't a store until now. Or maybe didn't have access to Qt-the-company to get into the launch. I assume that's why they've seeded it with a bunch of Open-Source libraries too, to at least give it some discovery value. A store has been asked for a bunch, and it's not as weird as GP makes it out (tons of sites sell HTML/JS components, game engines have stores for assets/scripts, ...), we'll see if it actually works out.

ausjke 7y ago

a simply "how" & "why" at HN will be deemed as "snarky" easily? I wonder "how" and "why" a lot and thought it's a quick way to start a constructive(provocative, but not negative) discussion, not sure why some of readers here are so easily got offended and started to down-vote, well I'm used to it nowadays.