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> "San Francisco has the prettiest natural surroundings of any city in America." I'm open to disagreements, but I'd say SF has the prettiest surroundings of an

> "San Francisco has the prettiest natural surroundings of any city in America." I'm open to disagreements, but I'd say SF has the prettiest surroundings of any US city. The only place I've lived I think was prettier was Rio de Janeiro. I can think of other places that are also very beautiful though, such as Salt Lake City or Jackson Hole. I like to say the worst thing about San Francisco is San Francisco - everything around San Francisco is gorgeous! Muir Woods, Half Moon Bay, Sausalito - those are within a ~30 minute drive from where I live. The coastal drive north once you get to Stinson Beach might be my favorite road to drive on because of the views. As for the city itself, I would absolutely give the edge to Chicago for their architectural designs. What places do you find the prettiest?

baddox 7y ago
Salt Lake City is what immediately came to my mind as well, if we're limiting it to "major" US cities. There are, of course, small towns that are basically known for having ludicrously beautiful surroundings, like Telluride. And I assume we're just not counting Hawaii since that obviously wouldn't be fair?
AnimalMuppet 7y ago
You think San Francisco is in Jackson Hole's class? I disagree, strongly. I would also consider places like Breckenridge to be above San Francisco. But I would accept "not a major city" as ruling out Jackson Hole and Breckenridge, because in fact they are not major cities. I might accept San Francisco as being above Salt Lake, but not by much. I might consider Seattle to be as good as San Francisco.
sdnlafkjh34rw 7y ago
The problem I have is the hyperbole and broad sweeping generalizations of the article which really reduce America and the world down to tech, SF, and New York when there is a much more to the world out there. Almost every line about the uniqueness of SF is really just a comparison to NYC. Is America really just SF and NYC? It is so myopic that it's hard to take it seriously. San Francisco is a city with beautiful natural surroundings but so is Denver, Boulder, Seattle, Jackson, Honolulu, Kahului, San Diego, Los Angeles, Anchorage, Salt Lake City, Sedona, Carmel, etc. Even if by city they mean a large city or metropolis, I would still argue that Los Angeles, San Diego, and Seattle would be in the same tier of beauty.

baddox 7y ago

Salt Lake City is what immediately came to my mind as well, if we're limiting it to "major" US cities. There are, of course, small towns that are basically known for having ludicrously beautiful surroundings, like Telluride. And I assume we're just not counting Hawaii since that obviously wouldn't be fair?

AnimalMuppet 7y ago

You think San Francisco is in Jackson Hole's class? I disagree, strongly. I would also consider places like Breckenridge to be above San Francisco. But I would accept "not a major city" as ruling out Jackson Hole and Breckenridge, because in fact they are not major cities. I might accept San Francisco as being above Salt Lake, but not by much. I might consider Seattle to be as good as San Francisco.

sdnlafkjh34rw 7y ago

The problem I have is the hyperbole and broad sweeping generalizations of the article which really reduce America and the world down to tech, SF, and New York when there is a much more to the world out there. Almost every line about the uniqueness of SF is really just a comparison to NYC. Is America really just SF and NYC? It is so myopic that it's hard to take it seriously. San Francisco is a city with beautiful natural surroundings but so is Denver, Boulder, Seattle, Jackson, Honolulu, Kahului, San Diego, Los Angeles, Anchorage, Salt Lake City, Sedona, Carmel, etc. Even if by city they mean a large city or metropolis, I would still argue that Los Angeles, San Diego, and Seattle would be in the same tier of beauty.