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> And even most Western countries have concluded that requiring IDs for SIM cards is a necessary measure. > (As for renting a room, it would be crazy for a lan
by deogeo 7y ago
> And even most Western countries have concluded that requiring IDs for SIM cards is a necessary measure.
> (As for renting a room, it would be crazy for a landlord not to know who their tenant is just for practical reasons considering land and tenancy laws in most EU countries)
That's circular reasoning, and could be applied to any law.
Edit: How it's circular reasoning:
"The law is necessary because it has been enacted."
"It's necessary to collect ID when renting a room, because the law requires it."
As for how "most Western countries determined it was necessary" - there weren't exactly large, public debates and demands as happened for e.g. gay rights, were there? The laws just came about, very discreetly.
Edit2, due to posting limit: I did no conflating - my point applies to both your statements, separately.
- mytailorisrich 7y agoHow is that circular reasoning? Edit: I have seen your edit. I did not write that. You are conflating 2 unrelated topics and 2 unrelated parts of my comment although they were clearly separated. In many countries IDs are not required by law in order to rent a house (afaik). In the UK (which I know most) it only became a requirement a couple of years ago, specifically to check that the prospective tenant was not an illegal immigrant (in fact the requirement is not to check IDs but not to rent to illegal immigrants...) Landlords require an ID quite independently of any legal requirement because it does not make sense to entrust a real property to someone if you do not know who they are due to the financial liability and the legal procedures required to evict. In some commercial and legal relations it simply does make sense to assert the identity of the other party.