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https://www.sbsun.com/2019/02/28/san-bernardino-county-board-to-prohibit-renewable-energy-development-in-key-desert-areas/ https://www.sbsun.com/2019/02/28/san-

https://www.sbsun.com/2019/02/28/san-bernardino-county-board-to-prohibit-renewable-energy-development-in-key-desert-areas/ https://www.sbsun.com/2019/02/28/san-bernardino-county-board... > And, if you’re building the cheapest energy source possible it must therefore have a high EROI. That's only true to the degree that the energy cost of building an energy system is directly proportional to the dollar cost, which is often very not true.

Retric 7y ago
It’s got nothing to do with dust storms: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-san-bernardino-solar-renewable-energy-20190228-story.html https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-san-bernardino-solar-... This is simply pure NIMBI issue which also hits nuclear power. “That's only true to the degree that the energy cost of building an energy system is directly proportional to the dollar cost, which is often very not true.” This is an economic argument if X$ buys you K energy from the cheapest energy source it buys some number less than K from more expensive energy sources. Thus the least expensive energy source must have positive EROI. As solar is capital intensive interest payments representing zero energy are a significant cost, which pushes up the minimum possible EROI.
- acidburnNSA 7y ago
  > It’s got nothing to do with dust storms From your link: "They came from high desert communities such as Daggett, Joshua Tree and Lucerne Valley, where existing solar projects are seen by many as eyesores that destroy desert ecosystems and fuel larger dust storms."
  - Retric 7y ago
    Yes, note the “seen by many“ which is used because there is zero truth in the statement.
    - acidburnNSA 7y ago
      You're saying there are no dust storms. I'm saying the people whining about things like dust storms put in place a ban. We could easily both be 100% right.
      - Retric 7y ago
        Ahh, ok my mistake.

Retric 7y ago

It’s got nothing to do with dust storms: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-san-bernardino-solar-renewable-energy-20190228-story.html https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-san-bernardino-solar-... This is simply pure NIMBI issue which also hits nuclear power. “That's only true to the degree that the energy cost of building an energy system is directly proportional to the dollar cost, which is often very not true.” This is an economic argument if X$ buys you K energy from the cheapest energy source it buys some number less than K from more expensive energy sources. Thus the least expensive energy source must have positive EROI. As solar is capital intensive interest payments representing zero energy are a significant cost, which pushes up the minimum possible EROI.

acidburnNSA 7y ago
> It’s got nothing to do with dust storms From your link: "They came from high desert communities such as Daggett, Joshua Tree and Lucerne Valley, where existing solar projects are seen by many as eyesores that destroy desert ecosystems and fuel larger dust storms."
- Retric 7y ago
  Yes, note the “seen by many“ which is used because there is zero truth in the statement.
  - acidburnNSA 7y ago
    You're saying there are no dust storms. I'm saying the people whining about things like dust storms put in place a ban. We could easily both be 100% right.
    - Retric 7y ago
      Ahh, ok my mistake.