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> Robots are used everywhere already. Everywhere. That's utterly irrelevant - the parent poster was talking specifically about robots used against humans. And

by deogeo 7y ago

> Robots are used everywhere already. Everywhere. That's utterly irrelevant - the parent poster was talking specifically about robots used against humans. And the reason it's dangerous, is that you no longer need to convince a human to pull the trigger. It concentrates unchecked power into even fewer hands.

nexuist 7y ago
Robots are used against humans everywhere, already. Remember Predator drones? Been in the skies since the early 2000s. They require human authorization, and it is very unlikely that any AI will be given trigger control anytime soon. Nobody would trust their life to an algorithm, and if you rely on the algorithm to determine who's a friendly, your users are not going to like you.
- deogeo 7y ago
  By 'everywhere', you mean war zones. I don't have Predator drones flying over my head, and I want to keep it that way.
  - nexuist 7y ago
    > Civilian applications for drones have included border enforcement and scientific studies, and to monitor wind direction and other characteristics of large forest fires (such as the drone that was used by the California Air National Guard in the August 2013 Rim Fire). > On 18 May 2006, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) issued a certificate of authorization which will allow the M/RQ-1 and M/RQ-9 aircraft to be used within U.S. civilian airspace to search for survivors of disasters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1_Predator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1_Predator The seeds are sowed. I also find it very Ameri-centric to believe that you are safe just because you are not in a war zone. Consider the well-meaning families that have to deal with these things, knowing that at any point in time they could be blown to oblivion with no prior warning. The majority of them are not terrorists, yet they all must deal with constant paranoia.
tomatotomato37 7y ago
I believe there is a critical misunderstanding here going on; this isn't an argument against a "pure" robot, aka a mechanical contraption that can move and manipulate things, this is an argument against artificial intelligence, which people commonly use robot as a synonym for. Police robot tech is still manually controlled because contrary to the hype the cutting edge of robotics AI is still in the realm of not falling over when some dude from Boston Dynamics hits it with a stick.

by deogeo 7y ago

nexuist 7y ago

Robots are used against humans everywhere, already. Remember Predator drones? Been in the skies since the early 2000s. They require human authorization, and it is very unlikely that any AI will be given trigger control anytime soon. Nobody would trust their life to an algorithm, and if you rely on the algorithm to determine who's a friendly, your users are not going to like you.

deogeo 7y ago
By 'everywhere', you mean war zones. I don't have Predator drones flying over my head, and I want to keep it that way.
- nexuist 7y ago
  > Civilian applications for drones have included border enforcement and scientific studies, and to monitor wind direction and other characteristics of large forest fires (such as the drone that was used by the California Air National Guard in the August 2013 Rim Fire). > On 18 May 2006, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) issued a certificate of authorization which will allow the M/RQ-1 and M/RQ-9 aircraft to be used within U.S. civilian airspace to search for survivors of disasters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1_Predator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1_Predator The seeds are sowed. I also find it very Ameri-centric to believe that you are safe just because you are not in a war zone. Consider the well-meaning families that have to deal with these things, knowing that at any point in time they could be blown to oblivion with no prior warning. The majority of them are not terrorists, yet they all must deal with constant paranoia.

tomatotomato37 7y ago

I believe there is a critical misunderstanding here going on; this isn't an argument against a "pure" robot, aka a mechanical contraption that can move and manipulate things, this is an argument against artificial intelligence, which people commonly use robot as a synonym for. Police robot tech is still manually controlled because contrary to the hype the cutting edge of robotics AI is still in the realm of not falling over when some dude from Boston Dynamics hits it with a stick.