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Not true. Perhaps you meant to say that copy protection has existed for a long time. But plenty of commercial video has been available without copy protection
by Goladus 7y ago
Not true. Perhaps you meant to say that copy protection has existed for a long time. But plenty of commercial video has been available without copy protection.
- scarface74 7y agoif you are referring to mainstream commercial movies by the major studios, Macrovision was introduced in 1984 for VHS tapes. DVDs from mainstream studios also had DRM. What commercial video from the major studios have not had copy protection?
- Goladus 7y agoI'd have to go to my fathers house to find the stack of VHS tapes that were duplicated from rentals. Meanwhile I have my own modest stack of DVDs that I copied in the 2000s using whatever generic DVD ripper was available for windows at the time. I recall once or twice being unable to rip a DVD for copy protection reasons but it was rare. Either there was no copy protection, or the copy protection was so trivial to circumvent that I never even knew it was there.
- scarface74 7y agoGeneric DVD rippers used DeCSS to remove DRM. There were also plenty of devices that could remove MacroVision while you were copying. I never said that the copy protection schemes weren’t easily circumvented. I said that commercial video has always had copy protection.
- Goladus 7y agoSo, a point irrelevant to any part of the actual discussion.
- scarface74 7y agoI said. You’ve never been able to buy commercial video without copy protection. Even in the VHS days you had Macrovision. That statement is factually correct. The reply: Not true. Perhaps you meant to say that copy protection has existed for a long time. But plenty of commercial video has been available without copy protection. Which is factually incorrect. The reply: I copied in the 2000s using whatever generic DVD ripper was available for windows at the time. I recall once or twice being unable to rip a DVD for copy protection reasons but it was rare. Since even the oldest Windows dvd copy programs like DVDRipper could crack DRM doesn’t prove anything... Are you now saying that being factually correct is “irrelevant”? But using programs and devices that removed copy protection somehow proves that it didn’t exist?
- Goladus 7y agoIt's definitely factually incorrect that all VHS tapes had macrovision. I know we did not have any kind of stablilizer or special copy machinery used to duplicate VHS tapes.