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No, but if we're forcing the kids to have clear backpacks because of an infinitesimal risk, we should ban them from biking to school, being driven to school and

by werfds 7y ago

No, but if we're forcing the kids to have clear backpacks because of an infinitesimal risk, we should ban them from biking to school, being driven to school and playing in the school football team. Which is ridiculous.

nguoi 7y ago
That's a poor comparison though. Both of the others provide other benefits: a method of commuting to school or exercise. Potentially even scholarships. Fashionable backpacks do nothing.
- zepto 7y ago
  Freedom from arbitrary restrictions does something.
  - nguoi 7y ago
    Welcome to mandatory education
    - zepto 7y ago
      Seems like you agree with me that this has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with the dysfunction of the school system.
- Mirioron 7y ago
  Imagine you're a teenage girl and you need to carry sanitary products with you. I imagine that for some of them this is essentially a nightmare scenario. That's a direct harm to kids.
  - nguoi 7y ago
    This is a good point and I hope they can work around it (such as by allowing small opaque bags inside the bag).
    - deathanatos 7y ago
      At which point the clear outer bag is defeated.
tomatotomato37 7y ago
Some schools actually have banned things such as biking to school, along with playing tag, balls, and even running during recess over the same safety boogieman. It's frustrating how the whole freedom vs security balance thing falls off a cliff when children's rights are discussed. Sources edit: https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20026414/why-biking-to-school-is-banned-in-some-areas/ https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20026414/why-biking-to-schoo... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/03/parents-outrage-over-school-ban-on-running-in-playground/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/03/parents-outrage-... https://www.thehealthjournals.com/youre-not-it/amp/ https://www.thehealthjournals.com/youre-not-it/amp/
- zepto 7y ago
  That sounds like prison.
  - linuxftw 7y ago
    As a child, it is exactly prison, it's not 'like' prison. You are controlled in location, action, and speech. You are told when to use the restroom, when to eat. Feeling sleepy today or maybe not getting along with an obnoxious inmate? Too bad for you, you're powerless. I personally believe most school violence is induced by the prison-like nature of schools. They are inmate riots of 1.

by werfds 7y ago

nguoi 7y ago

That's a poor comparison though. Both of the others provide other benefits: a method of commuting to school or exercise. Potentially even scholarships. Fashionable backpacks do nothing.

zepto 7y ago
Freedom from arbitrary restrictions does something.
- nguoi 7y ago
  Welcome to mandatory education
  - zepto 7y ago
    Seems like you agree with me that this has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with the dysfunction of the school system.
Mirioron 7y ago
Imagine you're a teenage girl and you need to carry sanitary products with you. I imagine that for some of them this is essentially a nightmare scenario. That's a direct harm to kids.
- nguoi 7y ago
  This is a good point and I hope they can work around it (such as by allowing small opaque bags inside the bag).
  - deathanatos 7y ago
    At which point the clear outer bag is defeated.

tomatotomato37 7y ago

Some schools actually have banned things such as biking to school, along with playing tag, balls, and even running during recess over the same safety boogieman. It's frustrating how the whole freedom vs security balance thing falls off a cliff when children's rights are discussed. Sources edit: https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20026414/why-biking-to-school-is-banned-in-some-areas/ https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20026414/why-biking-to-schoo... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/03/parents-outrage-over-school-ban-on-running-in-playground/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/03/parents-outrage-... https://www.thehealthjournals.com/youre-not-it/amp/ https://www.thehealthjournals.com/youre-not-it/amp/

zepto 7y ago
That sounds like prison.
- linuxftw 7y ago
  As a child, it is exactly prison, it's not 'like' prison. You are controlled in location, action, and speech. You are told when to use the restroom, when to eat. Feeling sleepy today or maybe not getting along with an obnoxious inmate? Too bad for you, you're powerless. I personally believe most school violence is induced by the prison-like nature of schools. They are inmate riots of 1.