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Do clear backpacks increase the risk of dying from cycling?
by nguoi 7y ago
Do clear backpacks increase the risk of dying from cycling?
- werfds 7y agoNo, but if we're forcing the kids to have clear backpacks because of an infinitesimal risk, we should ban them from biking to school, being driven to school and playing in the school football team. Which is ridiculous.
- nguoi 7y agoThat's a poor comparison though. Both of the others provide other benefits: a method of commuting to school or exercise. Potentially even scholarships. Fashionable backpacks do nothing.
- zepto 7y agoFreedom from arbitrary restrictions does something.
- Mirioron 7y agoImagine you're a teenage girl and you need to carry sanitary products with you. I imagine that for some of them this is essentially a nightmare scenario. That's a direct harm to kids.
- nguoi 7y agoThis is a good point and I hope they can work around it (such as by allowing small opaque bags inside the bag).
- deathanatos 7y agoAt which point the clear outer bag is defeated.
- tomatotomato37 7y agoSome schools actually have banned things such as biking to school, along with playing tag, balls, and even running during recess over the same safety boogieman. It's frustrating how the whole freedom vs security balance thing falls off a cliff when children's rights are discussed. Sources edit: https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20026414/why-biking-to-school-is-banned-in-some-areas/ https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20026414/why-biking-to-schoo... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/03/parents-outrage-over-school-ban-on-running-in-playground/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/03/parents-outrage-... https://www.thehealthjournals.com/youre-not-it/amp/ https://www.thehealthjournals.com/youre-not-it/amp/
- zepto 7y agoThat sounds like prison.
- linuxftw 7y agoAs a child, it is exactly prison, it's not 'like' prison. You are controlled in location, action, and speech. You are told when to use the restroom, when to eat. Feeling sleepy today or maybe not getting along with an obnoxious inmate? Too bad for you, you're powerless. I personally believe most school violence is induced by the prison-like nature of schools. They are inmate riots of 1.
- noonespecial 7y agoNo. But clear backpacks do nothing at all to make them safer. And everyone with half a brain knows this. It conditions the entire population to accept security theater and government surveillance as part of everyday life. This sets the entire society up to be unable to resist government overreach in the future. Clear backpacks increase the risk of death from tyranny.
- nguoi 7y ago>But clear backpacks do nothing at all to make them safer I must be missing most of my brain then because, to me, this sounds unfounded.
- zepto 7y agoWhat sounds unfounded?
- drdeadringer 7y agoI think the quoted part about "clear backpacks do nothing at all to make them safer" is what the commenter found unfounded.
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoSomeone who wants to pack heat to school isn't gonna be stopped by a clear backpack. They'll cut out a texbook or hide it on their person. Look to the TSA's track record to see why making the formerly hidden visible doesn't actually help that much.
- nguoi 7y agoLook at how that same argument fails to apply to suicide statistics being reduced by removing access to guns or falls from bridges. You're trying to apply a logical train of thought to an inherently illogical act of homicide. But even if you can apply that, it doesn't work. The gun and ammo you can fit in a textbook is smaller than what can fit in a backpack. Backpacks are good at carrying things, that's why we - and school shooters - use them. So if someone wants to pack heat, they'll be less effective. Maybe the effect from this is insignificant. But how sure do you have to be for the risk of dead children to be less bad than someone not being allowed a cute backpack?