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This company has no association with the Israeli intelligence whatsoever. Many, many of the Israelis involved in the technology world have served in the IDF Int

This company has no association with the Israeli intelligence whatsoever. Many, many of the Israelis involved in the technology world have served in the IDF Intelligence Corps (being that Israel has mandatory conscription and the intel corps select the best and brightest).

mirimir 7y ago
And you know that how?
- flyinglizard 7y ago
  My assertion is that companies are not automatically related to the Israeli intelligence even if their founders came from its ranks. It takes decisive contrarian proof to convince me otherwise. I did not see such proof in your post. Virtually any technology company either founded or operating in Israel has former Israeli intelligence people in its ranks. It's true for Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook and others.
EpicEng 7y ago
>This company has no association with the Israeli intelligence whatsoever. And then... >My assertion is that companies are not automatically related to the Israeli intelligence even if their founders came from its ranks. It takes decisive contrarian proof to convince me otherwise. Why were you so convinced that there is no association? Maybe there is, maybe there isn't, but what we _do_ know is that the CEO is an ex member.
- mirimir 7y ago
  Right, and there are lots of VPNs. So why use one with anything iffy about it? However, I gotta say that it's complicated for PIA. There's past evidence of being unable to produce logs for criminal investigators. And now there's the purchase by a firm with an iffy reputation. However, there's the possibility that said firm was exploited by malware pushers, and not intentionally pushing malware. But still, that's evidence of incompetence, which is also not a good thing for a VPN provider. And then the CEO's association with Israeli intelligence. So anyway, it is complicated. But it seems most prudent to wait and see.
  - EpicEng 7y ago
    Sure, we'll see, but in the meantime I likely won't take the risk.

mirimir 7y ago

And you know that how?

flyinglizard 7y ago
My assertion is that companies are not automatically related to the Israeli intelligence even if their founders came from its ranks. It takes decisive contrarian proof to convince me otherwise. I did not see such proof in your post. Virtually any technology company either founded or operating in Israel has former Israeli intelligence people in its ranks. It's true for Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook and others.

EpicEng 7y ago

>This company has no association with the Israeli intelligence whatsoever. And then... >My assertion is that companies are not automatically related to the Israeli intelligence even if their founders came from its ranks. It takes decisive contrarian proof to convince me otherwise. Why were you so convinced that there is no association? Maybe there is, maybe there isn't, but what we _do_ know is that the CEO is an ex member.

mirimir 7y ago
Right, and there are lots of VPNs. So why use one with anything iffy about it? However, I gotta say that it's complicated for PIA. There's past evidence of being unable to produce logs for criminal investigators. And now there's the purchase by a firm with an iffy reputation. However, there's the possibility that said firm was exploited by malware pushers, and not intentionally pushing malware. But still, that's evidence of incompetence, which is also not a good thing for a VPN provider. And then the CEO's association with Israeli intelligence. So anyway, it is complicated. But it seems most prudent to wait and see.
- EpicEng 7y ago
  Sure, we'll see, but in the meantime I likely won't take the risk.