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No. "It's my weekend with my kids" is well understood to mean divorce. It was clearly a lie. Good on OP to recognize it.
by loco5niner 7y ago
No. "It's my weekend with my kids" is well understood to mean divorce. It was clearly a lie. Good on OP to recognize it.
- sneak 7y agoNo, it can imply divorce, but it does not specify; it is ambiguous. You are assigning explicit communication where there is none, objectively. The listener's assumptions (or lack thereof), which happen after the speaker speaks, cannot retroactively cause the statement to be or not be a lie.
- loco5niner 7y agoPlease provide an example that is not divorce where this phrase applies.
- novok 7y agoSomeone can have kids without marrying the mother? There are also other edge cases, such as adoption, surrogacy, etc.
- loco5niner 7y agoGood point about not having married the mother. I guess I should have said "custody or visitation rights issues". However, the original point still applies. He does not suffer from these issues, and directly communicated that he did. That is a lie.
- sneak 7y ago> He does not suffer from these issues, and directly communicated that he did At no point did he directly communicate anything about custody in his statement. You are confusing implication with direct statements.
- sneak 7y agoThe one in question in this thread is a good example. He spent his weekend with his kids.
- loco5niner 7y agoNot at all. "It's my weekend with my kids" clearly conveys that he does not get to spend other weekends with his kids.
- sneak 7y agoObjectively, it does not: it implies that, but does not denote it. You are reading your own implicit assumptions about the statement as fact. He simply never said that.
- loco5niner 7y agoThe impetus is not on the listener to "read through" the deception, the impetus is on the speaker to not purposefully deceive. Whether you deceive by purposefully implying a falsehood or by purposefully denoting a falsehood it is still a lie. Seriously, how far are you willing to go in your attempts to justify lying? You are basically saying "If I define my lie this way, it isn't a lie" It's far easier and better for all involved if you simply tell the truth.
- sneak 7y agoAt no point in the events described did he do anything other than “simply tell the truth”. The words he quoted himself as saying were factually accurate.
- loco5niner 7y agoYou are basically using lawyer-speak. You can be legally right, while still being morally wrong.