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Some perceive Google's stand with hypocrisy e.g. http://twitter.com/#!/counternotions/status/32568646026924032 http://twitter.com/#!/counternotions/status/32568

Some perceive Google's stand with hypocrisy e.g. http://twitter.com/#!/counternotions/status/32568646026924032 http://twitter.com/#!/counternotions/status/3256864602692403...

chc 16y ago
That tweet is drawing a very specious connection. Android did not, as far as I can tell, copy any of Apple's algorithms or piggyback on top of them. It is a novel implementation of some of the same ideas in the iPhone. Similarly, it's plagiarism if you take a Harry Potter book and publish your own version with the names changed, but James Patterson's "Witch & Wizard" has a copyright of its own despite being rather similar in concept. (Edited to remove question about phrasing thanks to atularora's clarification.)
- atularora 16y ago
  standby -> stand. Sorry for the typo
- brown9-2 16y ago
  The tweet author might be referring to recent claims that Android contains non-licensed Sun code.
  - chc 16y ago
    That could be, but it would make even less sense to me. If they're talking about copying Apple, at least they did copy something from Apple, if only an idea. The copyright infringement claims have never been substantiated at all — it's just an accusation.
- ecopoesis 16y ago
  While Android it obviously inspired by iOS, it's not a direct copy. A better example of Google's hypocrisy is their outright copying news articles into Google News despite the source companies asking them not to.
  - cma 16y ago
    Healines and snippits, and they respect robots.txt. The full articles they have are licensed from the AP.
    - ecopoesis 16y ago
      What about the case of TripAdvisor? TripAdvisor says "Google, don't copy our reviews for Google places." Google says "The only way we won't copy your content is if you opt-out of completely." TA says "We can't do that, you're the only search engine there is." Google just laughs maniacally. http://www.tnooz.com/2010/12/08/news/google-places-blocked-from-using-tripadvisor-reviews/ http://www.tnooz.com/2010/12/08/news/google-places-blocked-f... http://www.tnooz.com/2011/01/11/news/tripadvisor-content-on-google-still-restricted-but-talks-continue/ http://www.tnooz.com/2011/01/11/news/tripadvisor-content-on-...
      - chc 16y ago
        I don't see how that's relevant at all. Google gave them the option of not being indexed. They decided they would rather be indexed by Google than not. The complaint that TripAdvisor doesn't get precise, fine-grained control over what Google does with its index seems like a fairly different issue.

Some perceive Google's stand with hypocrisy e.g. http://twitter.com/#!/counternotions/status/32568646026924032 http://twitter.com/#!/counternotions/status/3256864602692403...

chc 16y ago

That tweet is drawing a very specious connection. Android did not, as far as I can tell, copy any of Apple's algorithms or piggyback on top of them. It is a novel implementation of some of the same ideas in the iPhone. Similarly, it's plagiarism if you take a Harry Potter book and publish your own version with the names changed, but James Patterson's "Witch & Wizard" has a copyright of its own despite being rather similar in concept. (Edited to remove question about phrasing thanks to atularora's clarification.)

atularora 16y ago
standby -> stand. Sorry for the typo
brown9-2 16y ago
The tweet author might be referring to recent claims that Android contains non-licensed Sun code.
- chc 16y ago
  That could be, but it would make even less sense to me. If they're talking about copying Apple, at least they did copy something from Apple, if only an idea. The copyright infringement claims have never been substantiated at all — it's just an accusation.
ecopoesis 16y ago
While Android it obviously inspired by iOS, it's not a direct copy. A better example of Google's hypocrisy is their outright copying news articles into Google News despite the source companies asking them not to.
- cma 16y ago
  Healines and snippits, and they respect robots.txt. The full articles they have are licensed from the AP.
  - ecopoesis 16y ago
    What about the case of TripAdvisor? TripAdvisor says "Google, don't copy our reviews for Google places." Google says "The only way we won't copy your content is if you opt-out of completely." TA says "We can't do that, you're the only search engine there is." Google just laughs maniacally. http://www.tnooz.com/2010/12/08/news/google-places-blocked-from-using-tripadvisor-reviews/ http://www.tnooz.com/2010/12/08/news/google-places-blocked-f... http://www.tnooz.com/2011/01/11/news/tripadvisor-content-on-google-still-restricted-but-talks-continue/ http://www.tnooz.com/2011/01/11/news/tripadvisor-content-on-...
    - chc 16y ago
      I don't see how that's relevant at all. Google gave them the option of not being indexed. They decided they would rather be indexed by Google than not. The complaint that TripAdvisor doesn't get precise, fine-grained control over what Google does with its index seems like a fairly different issue.