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You miss why folks pick AWS I think. When you say get a filer with 500TB that can do 10GiBy/s as a developer I might hear this as the reality. Talk to infra g
by privateSFacct 7y ago
You miss why folks pick AWS I think.
When you say get a filer with 500TB that can do 10GiBy/s as a developer I might hear this as the reality.
Talk to infra group -> who will sit with a bunch of sales people and go round and round then get some quotes, then go back and forth with dev group trying to really spec out what is needed, then get finance / accounting approvals, more questions and answers, then put the order in, then have sales people apologize for this and that delay, then get filer onsite, the a big todo to install, then find the gigabit Ethernet can't actually push 10GiBy/s, then have to find add-in cards for all the servers and do a big network redo to get some kind of speed to the actual servers. Then after developers play with this a bit they decide to go a different route and the dance starts again.
Contrast with this AWS. I can try out my flow with a few clicks on console.
Security is painful though - no question.
- privateSFacct 7y agoIn case my point wasn't clear - for many situations AWS is FASTER in terms of development, and once you've built your app on AWS it can be painful to switch to an on-prem solution and rebuild on the "easy" 10GB/s EBS. And by the time you are done dealing with add-in cards / driver bugs etc...
- angry_octet 7y agoIt sounds like the ease of using AWS means the technical staff capability has atrophied. If you're doing on prem all the time it isn't an issue. Of course you have to have the scale to have a tech staff, including not losing critical capability when someone leaves. On prem cloud is still mayhem, VMWare is very very bad, Openstack is baroque. Moving anything from AWS or Azure to on prem cloud would be very frustrating.
- angry_octet 7y agoTBF that is a problem with your company (many companies and govt), not non-cloud hardware. If you have good management practices then all the groups involved will share ownship of delivering the successful outcome (whatever you need your giant high performance filer for), which also includes empowering the lead engineer to hire/train (which is often better IMHO) people with the requisite skills. So what you are arguing is that many places have limited competency, and you can outsource the need for that to AWS -- at significant cost. I dealt with a fair number of turf guarding drongos so I'm sympathetic to this idea, but it remains true that you can get much more peak performance, and perf/$ from your own hardware.