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One thing I found curious about this story is its patent unwillingness to examine what this “fraudster’s” motivations might have actually been. The overall bent

One thing I found curious about this story is its patent unwillingness to examine what this “fraudster’s” motivations might have actually been. The overall bent of its narrative seems to be to discredit the motivation of Epstein’s victims and their lawyers, without any consideration that this could’ve been the express purpose of the ruse. Overall, the New York Times coverage has been quite poor and conciliatory toward those involved with Epstein, especially Gates and Wexner.

carc 7y ago
My understanding is that Gates and Epstein were more or less just acquaintances, but it seems you think otherwise. What am I missing?
- claudeganon 7y ago
  The true extent of their relationship is unknown and not really being given much scrutiny in the media. From the one, reasonable piece of reporting on it, there was an overlap in staff between Epstein’s operation and the Gates foundation, the two organizations were in regular contact through 2017, and Gates has a venture fund with the man named as the executor of Epstein’s estate: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-...
  - panpanna 7y ago
    > The true extent of their relationship is unknown and not really being given much scrutiny in the media Or - and here is a crazy idea - there is not much to dig up. Obviously if you hang too much on r/conspiracy you will see crazy angles to anything. (For HN readers who do not: I encourage you to have a look, it's ... interesting).
    - claudeganon 7y ago
      Sure, Gates changed his story from having “no business relationship” with Epstein to actually having met him many times, oh and also the two shared members of their inner circle, and I guess, yeah, they worked on a proposed multibillion dollar deal from which Epstein would have handsomely profited, all after his underage prostitution charge was known to Gates, but really, there’s nothing else to dig up. Despite your insinuation, I don’t spend any time on conspiracy subreddits. But if you truly think the entire extent of what was going on is out in the open, I admire your credulity.
      - me_me_me 7y ago
        > But if you truly think the entire extent of what was going on is out in the open, I admire your credulity. Well put, it is quite transparent that something shady was happening there. But it seems no one is interested looking into it.
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carc 7y ago

My understanding is that Gates and Epstein were more or less just acquaintances, but it seems you think otherwise. What am I missing?

claudeganon 7y ago
The true extent of their relationship is unknown and not really being given much scrutiny in the media. From the one, reasonable piece of reporting on it, there was an overlap in staff between Epstein’s operation and the Gates foundation, the two organizations were in regular contact through 2017, and Gates has a venture fund with the man named as the executor of Epstein’s estate: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-...
- panpanna 7y ago
  > The true extent of their relationship is unknown and not really being given much scrutiny in the media Or - and here is a crazy idea - there is not much to dig up. Obviously if you hang too much on r/conspiracy you will see crazy angles to anything. (For HN readers who do not: I encourage you to have a look, it's ... interesting).
  - claudeganon 7y ago
    Sure, Gates changed his story from having “no business relationship” with Epstein to actually having met him many times, oh and also the two shared members of their inner circle, and I guess, yeah, they worked on a proposed multibillion dollar deal from which Epstein would have handsomely profited, all after his underage prostitution charge was known to Gates, but really, there’s nothing else to dig up. Despite your insinuation, I don’t spend any time on conspiracy subreddits. But if you truly think the entire extent of what was going on is out in the open, I admire your credulity.
    - me_me_me 7y ago
      > But if you truly think the entire extent of what was going on is out in the open, I admire your credulity. Well put, it is quite transparent that something shady was happening there. But it seems no one is interested looking into it.
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