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Announcing CodeConf 2011 (GitHub is putting on a conference)
- jonursenbach 16y agoI wish conferences weren't so damned expensive.
- kingkilr 16y agoNot all of them are! PyCon (http://us.pycon.org/2011/tickets/ http://us.pycon.org/2011/tickets/) is 30% cheaper (40% if you got earlybird).
- seiji 16y ago(hint: you're supposed to expense it through your employer)
- roxstar 16y agoHe must be self employed.
- jonursenbach 16y agoI'm not self employed, I work for gdgt. I just wish I didn't have to bug my employer to fund me attending this kind of stuff and would much rather pay for it out of my own pocket because (personally) I tend to care more about something if I'm paying for it out of my own pocket.
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- icco 16y agoAs a student, and a startup employee, I must say that not everyone has the ability to expense their employer.
- bradgessler 16y agoMost conferences have different pricing tiers to deal with this stuff. Seeing as how this is Github's first conference, if enough people bug them they might do something about this.
- icco 16y agoI've found that most conferences with such a low limit of seats tend not to have student pricing tiers, but I'll bug them, couldn't hurt.
- tylerrooney 16y agoThe conference is in downtown San Francisco, provides 6 meals, and is throwing 2 parties. If you think $500 is expensive than I don't think you have any idea how much it costs to rent a 300-person conference room at even a mediocre hotel (let alone catering on top of that). And this isn't a mediocre hotel, it's the Hyatt Regency. That doesn't even touch on the cost of organizing and running the conference, travel and hotel for speakers, etc, etc, etc.
- count 16y agoShmoocon did 1600 people (1200 attendees + speakers/staff). Tickets were $150/ea. The Hotel was the Washington DC Hilton, right in Dupont Circle and freshly remodeled. The hotel was $40k, the open bar on Sat. night was $30k. They brought in $300k and had $100k left over. It's seriously not that expensive, although 6 meals might cost quite a bit more...but only for 300 people? I can't imagine it costing THAT much more.
- bradly 16y agoI've never really understood it either. RailsConf is $700. I don't know what the turn-out is but I would guess ~1,000 people maybe? That is $700,000. Maybe I am just unaware how much a conference costs to put on, but that seems like a ton of money. Plus most conferences have sponsors too.
- steveklabnik 16y agoFree Market Economoy 101: things are worth whatever people are willing to pay for them. Prices aren't based on cost, they're based on value.
- jamesbritt 16y ago"Prices aren't based on cost, they're based on value." Sometimes. MountainWest RubyConf is $125. There are other regional Ruby confs that are free. These are among the best and most valuable gatherings I've attended. The organisers are aware of this value, but they're not doing it to make money so they're not jacking up the prices as they could. When you look at the price for this or that conference, think about who's doing it, for what reason, and for whose benefit. Try to support those closest to your ideals.
- acgourley 16y agoI recently got a "exhibitor kit" packet that lists the costs of renting certain items for your conference display. You know, tables, monitors, booth structures, rugs, plants, extension cords. Stuff marketing teams don't want to deal with packing in and out. $65 to have power available in your area. $100 for a table. $200-500 for area rugs. $80 dollars an hour for labor to help setup or tear down. A 22" monitor is $200 - you could buy it and throw it away for that price. I'm not saying it's highway robbery, but it's shocking, and probably indicates running a conference that pops up and then tears down efficiently is simply more expensive than you would initially guess.
- callmeed 16y agoDude, those are low rates from my experience. The rates are outrageous partly because all the work (from moving crates to Internet) is done by union workers. The convention centers have exclusive contracts with companies like GES, also driving up costs.
- steveklabnik 16y agoThe last time I had a booth at a conference, I just swung by the local rent-a-center and grabbed a TV. So much cheaper.
- mnutt 16y agoI've heard that many conference venues also require you to purchase catering, which can account for a signification portion of the cost.
- sleight42 16y agoAre you a Rubyist? The following Ruby events are FREE (as in beer)! Ruby DCamp: http://rubydcamp.org http://rubydcamp.org (disclosure: I run this (un)conference) Magic Ruby: http://magic-ruby.com/ http://magic-ruby.com/ Ruby Hoedown: http://www.rubyhoedown.com/ http://www.rubyhoedown.com/ NYCamp: http://nycamp.in http://nycamp.in Not all confs are about the money. A few, however socialist/idealistic/naive people may accuse us of being, are about the love.
- mkramlich 16y agoagreed typical conference: your cost anywhere from $300-2000 typical Meetup.com-style meetup: your cost anywhere from $0-5
- aaronblohowiak 16y agoand free pizza at the meetups!
- HeyLaughingBoy 16y agoWho pays for it?
- aaronblohowiak 16y agoUsually companies looking to hire people.
- simonw 16y agoSpeak at them. Saves a TON of money.
- cloudhead 16y agoSeems like codeconf isn't interested in talk proposal submissions.
- mnazim 16y agoOver the last couple of years, I have come to believe(firmly) that most(if not all) paid conferences are more about money and coolness(Hey! you know we are cool because we throw huge conferences). They want us to pay more because they want to get star speakers, treat them to 5-Star hospitality and make you listen to them and believe whatever they are saying is correct. It's more about business building and less about learning. Now I am not against business development and if there is a chance that one can get good business, spending 2% of the amount of expected business is not a bad deal at all. But label it that way "Damn It" and I will shut up. On the other hand, I have found that meetups of smaller user groups much more helpful and better from the learning point of view. Just my thought.
- necubi 16y agoThe article's link is to an informationless blog post. The conference site is http://codeconf.com/ http://codeconf.com/.
- steveklabnik 16y agoSomeone submitted it to HN too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2167727 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2167727
- kneath 16y agoArgh, really sorry about that, had the wrong url on my clipboard when I submitted — and unfortunately there's no editing urls :/ I guess maybe I should learn to read what I'm typing.
- 100k 16y agoFor a minute, I thought CodeCon was coming back. Darn! That was a cool conference. I somehow managed to scam my way into speaking at the first one -- I was the least smart person there by far! http://www.codecon.org/2009/ http://www.codecon.org/2009/
- steveklabnik 16y agoJust bought my ticket. I'll see you there! (also, if any HN-ers are around and want to get lunch or something, lemme know. I might go a day early and just putz around SF.)
- watdufa 16y agoConferences are valued by their ability to capture the energy of a focused audience. OSCON lost most of its value as open source 'won': the featured technologies were too diverse and the rallying cry of 'open source!' was mostly met with "duh! of course". I'm curious to understand the focus of this one: folks who love github? Cutting edge technology, as blessed by github?
- compay 16y agoI hear you. The lineup of speakers does look pretty interesting though.