I generally agree, and I think there are often business and security cases to be made for why buying into the centralized cloud paradigm are bad or might have l

I generally agree, and I think there are often business and security cases to be made for why buying into the centralized cloud paradigm are bad or might have long term hidden costs. The problem is that so many people either hear everyone else push it and jump on the bandwagon, often due to professional peer pressure, and another factor is that lets be honest, those of us who remember those days are getting older and there are techies working in the industry who haven't known anything different. A big fear of mine is that many of the younger hackers have lost or were never trained in that cypherpunk-phreak-hacktivist attitude that many of us had and learned on/with in our and the internets younger years. I know they still exist, but the sheer number of users drowns that type out as a much smaller percentage of the net... but it was largely that group that fought for the rights of users and major holdouts that influenced the patterns that made the internet what it is today. I suspect the increase in types who downvote topics like you bring up are just that majority, middle of the road, corporate placation user type, and it has gotten noticeably worse over the last few years on hn.