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Gee, I wonder why Belarus doesn't have this problem? I do business in Ukraine; I'm well aware of conditions on the ground there.

tasubotadas 7y ago
Belarus is a craphole because they have a dictator who only cares about farming. But/thus he isn't afraid of dealing with criminals. Ukraine is a craphole because of corruption not because it liberalized.
- scottlocklin 7y ago
  Belarus, as the article clearly states, unlike Ukraine, isn't a craphole at all. Saying "muh corruption" isn't an argument. Russia had a problem with corruption as well until they elected a patriotic strong man who got it under control to the point where oligarchs were no longer fighting pitched gun battles in Moscow. What's your plan for dealing with neoliberal induced corruption in Ukaine?
  - AzzieElbab 7y ago
    Seriously? No corruption in Russia since FSB officers have themselves become oligarchs? Or was there another point?
    - scottlocklin 7y ago
      I love the point and sputter. I said, Putin got corruption under control to the point where oligarchs (none of whom were or are FSB agents) are not fighting pitched street battles in Moscow. As a result their GDP, unlike Ukraine's, is doing fairly well. They even have a GINI index better than in the US. Imagine that! Do you have a plan for fixing Ukraine's corruption under the neoliberal looter regime the US put in place there?
      - AzzieElbab 7y ago
        Russia's gdp is directly proportional to oil prices, not oligarchs arrests. You can google for charts if you like. No, I do not have a plan for Ukraine. In fact I think no plan would make any difference at this point
        scottlocklin 7y ago
        I don't need to google for charts to know that you're regurgitating an addle-pated neocon talking point. Oil prices are down, Russia's economy, despite sanctions, is up. I guess autarky ain't so bad after all. Russia manages to field new nuclear submarines, new ballistic missile designs, a nuclear ramjet cruise missile and various other insane technological contraptions. Meanwhile in the US we need to hitch a ride ... with the Russians, to achieve low earth orbit, and we've shipped our heavy manufacturing capabilities to China and Mexico. But hey, at least we design iphones in California!
        AzzieElbab 7y ago
        Ok
varjag 7y ago
Belarus is reduced to a feudal family enterprise, with all resource allocation and import-exports tied in there. The system is thoroughly corrupt but with only one major stakeholder on the top.

tasubotadas 7y ago

Belarus is a craphole because they have a dictator who only cares about farming. But/thus he isn't afraid of dealing with criminals. Ukraine is a craphole because of corruption not because it liberalized.

scottlocklin 7y ago
Belarus, as the article clearly states, unlike Ukraine, isn't a craphole at all. Saying "muh corruption" isn't an argument. Russia had a problem with corruption as well until they elected a patriotic strong man who got it under control to the point where oligarchs were no longer fighting pitched gun battles in Moscow. What's your plan for dealing with neoliberal induced corruption in Ukaine?
- AzzieElbab 7y ago
  Seriously? No corruption in Russia since FSB officers have themselves become oligarchs? Or was there another point?
  - scottlocklin 7y ago
    I love the point and sputter. I said, Putin got corruption under control to the point where oligarchs (none of whom were or are FSB agents) are not fighting pitched street battles in Moscow. As a result their GDP, unlike Ukraine's, is doing fairly well. They even have a GINI index better than in the US. Imagine that! Do you have a plan for fixing Ukraine's corruption under the neoliberal looter regime the US put in place there?
    - AzzieElbab 7y ago
      Russia's gdp is directly proportional to oil prices, not oligarchs arrests. You can google for charts if you like. No, I do not have a plan for Ukraine. In fact I think no plan would make any difference at this point
      - scottlocklin 7y ago
        I don't need to google for charts to know that you're regurgitating an addle-pated neocon talking point. Oil prices are down, Russia's economy, despite sanctions, is up. I guess autarky ain't so bad after all. Russia manages to field new nuclear submarines, new ballistic missile designs, a nuclear ramjet cruise missile and various other insane technological contraptions. Meanwhile in the US we need to hitch a ride ... with the Russians, to achieve low earth orbit, and we've shipped our heavy manufacturing capabilities to China and Mexico. But hey, at least we design iphones in California!
        AzzieElbab 7y ago
        Ok

varjag 7y ago

Belarus is reduced to a feudal family enterprise, with all resource allocation and import-exports tied in there. The system is thoroughly corrupt but with only one major stakeholder on the top.