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> custom cryptography Just lost me. > you are only supposed to interact with it by running it and typing commands So, "the last computer you'll ever need" ..

> custom cryptography Just lost me. > you are only supposed to interact with it by running it and typing commands So, "the last computer you'll ever need" ... other than my phone, because the last time I wanted to type commands on a phone-sized device, was back when I was wet-dreaming over the Sharp Zaurus. Given the artificial scarcity of the IDs and the semi-mystical woo describing the proposition, my spidey-sense is telling me some smart people have been busy devising an naivety-magnet, all the better to part people from their money ("buy a planet"...um, ok).

bronzejaguar 7y ago
As far as I’m aware, there is no custom cryptography, and you can interact with it through a web UI now, not just through commands. Not sure where they got that idea.
- theamk 7y ago
  Re custom crypto: random searches in github show plenty of it. I have no idea if this is an experiment or used in main code, but it is certainly present. Here is one example: [0] > This raw interface is vaguely modeled on the haskell aos-signature package, but is written in terms of ed25519 primitives instead of general ECC and changes how linkage tags are computed... Re command line: I was based it off the public docs. Go to "https://urbit.org" https://urbit.org", click on "install". The very end of the instructions say: > Type (add 2 2) into the Dojo. Maybe "install" is wrong section? I went to "docs" instead, from that "operators manual" seems most user-friendly. But it is text only as well: > Let's join the ~dopzod/urbit-help channel. Use ctrl-x to switch from the Dojo prompt to the Chat prompt. Then: > ~sampel-palnet:chat-cli/ ;join ~dopzod/urbit-help The only reference to web UI I found was in "Using Bridge" section, but that seems a pre-requisite to set up the system, not part of the system itself. If there are web UIs, you really need to document them better. Some screenshots would be great, for example. [0] https://github.com/urbit/urbit/blob/7ce50ad75e23fcec0c8cb6ad60369b2515657a89/pkg/arvo/lib/ring.hoon https://github.com/urbit/urbit/blob/7ce50ad75e23fcec0c8cb6ad...
samatman 7y ago
Each planet can generate 2^32 moons, which are subsidiary processes. Your phone could run one of those. You can also generate a comet, which is effectively identified by the hash of its public key. Those are free; while eventually planets have some notional advantages, notably a default positive reputation, at the moment there are no downsides.
obituary_latte 7y ago
Oh man I remember the first time my buddy showed me his Zaurus out front of a bar in NYC - he had some kind of Remote Desktop with a Linux shell in that tiny screen. He had to scroll around to see stuff with the stylus in a not-so-user-friendly a manner and the input was slow as balls but I was absolutely enamored. I at the time was very proud of my newly released Motorola Razr in my pocket yet here was my buddy with this magic device showing me up. Thanks for the trip :)

bronzejaguar 7y ago

As far as I’m aware, there is no custom cryptography, and you can interact with it through a web UI now, not just through commands. Not sure where they got that idea.

theamk 7y ago
Re custom crypto: random searches in github show plenty of it. I have no idea if this is an experiment or used in main code, but it is certainly present. Here is one example: [0] > This raw interface is vaguely modeled on the haskell aos-signature package, but is written in terms of ed25519 primitives instead of general ECC and changes how linkage tags are computed... Re command line: I was based it off the public docs. Go to "https://urbit.org" https://urbit.org", click on "install". The very end of the instructions say: > Type (add 2 2) into the Dojo. Maybe "install" is wrong section? I went to "docs" instead, from that "operators manual" seems most user-friendly. But it is text only as well: > Let's join the ~dopzod/urbit-help channel. Use ctrl-x to switch from the Dojo prompt to the Chat prompt. Then: > ~sampel-palnet:chat-cli/ ;join ~dopzod/urbit-help The only reference to web UI I found was in "Using Bridge" section, but that seems a pre-requisite to set up the system, not part of the system itself. If there are web UIs, you really need to document them better. Some screenshots would be great, for example. [0] https://github.com/urbit/urbit/blob/7ce50ad75e23fcec0c8cb6ad60369b2515657a89/pkg/arvo/lib/ring.hoon https://github.com/urbit/urbit/blob/7ce50ad75e23fcec0c8cb6ad...

samatman 7y ago

Each planet can generate 2^32 moons, which are subsidiary processes. Your phone could run one of those. You can also generate a comet, which is effectively identified by the hash of its public key. Those are free; while eventually planets have some notional advantages, notably a default positive reputation, at the moment there are no downsides.

obituary_latte 7y ago

Oh man I remember the first time my buddy showed me his Zaurus out front of a bar in NYC - he had some kind of Remote Desktop with a Linux shell in that tiny screen. He had to scroll around to see stuff with the stylus in a not-so-user-friendly a manner and the input was slow as balls but I was absolutely enamored. I at the time was very proud of my newly released Motorola Razr in my pocket yet here was my buddy with this magic device showing me up. Thanks for the trip :)