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After I wrote that, I thought: maybe lots of people think that slack is for that. I think you are right. But, I do also think that a crucial distinction is tha
by xrd 7y ago
After I wrote that, I thought: maybe lots of people think that slack is for that. I think you are right.
But, I do also think that a crucial distinction is that most people assume water cooler talk isn't recorded. I have several co-workers who have said something in slack, then noted this is probably available to the boss, and then deleted the comment (who really knows if it is actually deleted and not available to the boss as a paid upgrade!). The point is water cooler talk is risk free, and I think at least an important part of those conversations with your coworkers should be experimental and searching, and having a surveillance layer over there prohibits (or inhibits) that.
- pavel_lishin 7y agoWell, I wouldn't say "risk-free", but I hear what you mean - HR isn't going to pull up a print-out of your exact words at the watercooler, with certain words and phrases circled in red sharpie. You're right - there are definitely things I've explicitly not said in Slack and saved for in-person discussions. I forgot about that aspect of it. :/
- keenmaster 7y agoThis is why 2-party consent to record laws will become increasingly important in the future. Eventually, AR virtual presence software with chatting avatars will proliferate in the corporate world. It would be stifling if you can’t be sure that the other party isn’t recording you. Unless you specifically agreed to allow your company to record all interactions, you should be afforded a reasonable degree of privacy: merely the same amount that you get around the watercooler in an office setting. Companies that record every utterance would face pressure from the labor market, though I’d prefer a law against that too, for the sanity of the populace.
- StavrosK 7y agoAre Slack private messages accessible to anyone? I've never heard this before.
- BurningFrog 7y agoThey're still in the system and can at a minimum be subpoenaed. If they're available to your local Slack admin, I don't know.
- avip 7y agoIt must be for compliance. It's called "corporate export". https://slack.com/help/articles/201658943-export-your-workspace-data https://slack.com/help/articles/201658943-export-your-worksp...
- StavrosK 7y agoYou only have that if you are on the Plus plan, and only after you upgrade.
- pavel_lishin 7y agoIs that upgrade retroactive?
- StavrosK 7y agoNo, you can only access messages after the upgrade.
- pgwhalen 7y ago>who really knows if it is actually deleted and not available to the boss as a paid upgrade! It's very much available, as someone who works in a highly regulated industry, it would be absurd from a compliance perspective to allow modifying past electronic communication.