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Do you talk about war criminals being awarded the Nobel peace prize or about Nobel peace prize laureates turning into war criminals? This is an important differ
by _Microft 7y ago
Do you talk about war criminals being awarded the Nobel peace prize or about Nobel peace prize laureates turning into war criminals? This is an important difference in my opinion.
Since you seem to follow this more closely than I do, would you mind giving an example?
- pram 7y agoAung San Suu Kyi is probably the most recent example with a very dubious legacy.
- dragonwriter 7y ago> Do you talk about war criminals being awarded the Nobel peace prize or about Nobel peace prize laureates turning into war criminals? For the former, Henry Kissinger. There are examples of the latter, as well.
- thundergolfer 7y agoHoly hell, Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize?! I'm was familiar enough with him to know he's disgustingly immoral, and never imagined people back then would have been stupid enough to give him that award. With 2 members of the committee resigning in protest, it seems not everyone with power to award it was so morally corrupt.
- croisillon 7y agoGorbatschow sent tanks on civilians in Vilnius just one month after being awarded the Peace Nobel
- stenl 7y agoObama pursued policies that arguably (https://www.amnestyusa.org/the-obama-bush-doctrine/ https://www.amnestyusa.org/the-obama-bush-doctrine/) amount to war crimes, and refused to allow the obvious war crimes of the preceding administration to be investigated. He got a Nobel peace prize essentially for being less terrible on that front than his predecessor, George W Bush.
- moneybadger 7y ago> But does the drone program amount to a war crime as Marc Thiessen suggests? That is a complicated question to answer. Unlike the use of torture, there are circumstances in international law and under the laws of war in which the use of lethal force can be lawful. Much depends on where, how and with what intent such force is used. We do not, as yet, have sufficient evidence to make a determination regarding the legality of the US drones program. It has been conducted in secret and in places where it is very difficult to mount an effective investigation. Also there was a 1,200+ page Senate investigation into the use of torture by the previous administration.
- JackFr 7y agoIt’s not more complicated. The same flawed intelligence apparatus which provided the lists of people to capture and interrogate during the Bush administration also compiled Obama’s kill list. Neither method really provides any useful intelligence. The difference is victims of torture can go on ‘60 Minutes’, victims of targeted drone strikes can’t.
- ekianjo 7y agoObama certainly did not deserve his Peace prize by the time he was elected and continued violence in the Middle East, started new wars (such as Libya) and expanded the (secret) drone strikes.