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Meanwhile Intel is still the only good option for laptops and I haven't used a desktop for 5+ years. Not saying this to bring down Intel success just wondering

Meanwhile Intel is still the only good option for laptops and I haven't used a desktop for 5+ years. Not saying this to bring down Intel success just wondering how much volume is in desktop vs laptop and hoping AMD can transition here as well.

neogodless 7y ago
Nah Zen isn't perfect for laptop but I've seen them in action and they are good options. Of course, Zen 2 APUs will help things there.
Redoubts 7y ago
I’m waiting for January where they release their mobile offerings. Hopefully they’ll be able to impress a little more this time around.
gameswithgo 7y ago
laptops are hard for amd due to oem backroom deals with intel, but with the popularity of zen2 that should start to crack i think. once zen2 mobile cpus hit the market we will start to see more amd laptops i think
agumonkey 7y ago
Some supermarket ads in the mail last month showed 3 laptops, 1 very low end atom x5 "skype machine" and 2 amd zen based medium class. I think zen will make a lot of sense for the majority of people. price/perf will reign over intel potential hedt products. If you give a 4 core + good gpu to the average joe for half the price of an intel he'll probably never look back.
- tsss 7y ago
  AMD has always been better at price/performance but in the laptop space the number 1 through 10 most important features are efficiency. Intel CPUs use less power and make less heat, which has always been the limiting factor.
  - BubRoss 7y ago
    I don't think that is true anymore. AMD has a process advantage and measures their heat by the max clock rate, while Intel calls their max clock rate 'core boost' and measures their TDP with lower clocks. You can see benchmarks of the newest CPUs have Intel's high end chip that was just released ending up consuming about 100 more watts under heavy CPU loads.
  - agumonkey 7y ago
    Confused because amd apu often struggled a tad more than Intel machines. Ipc wad weak and igpu was under utilized iirc
majewsky 7y ago
My notebook (2018 Thinkpad E485) has a Ryzen 5 2500U APU and I'm happy with it. The only bad thing about that notebook is lack of Thunderbolt.
josteink 7y ago
> Meanwhile Intel is still the only good option for laptops The new Thinkpad E595 replaces an Intel CPU with Ryzen (5/7 3x00U), and some reviews[1] seems to claim it’s a better laptop for it. [1] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E595-laptop-review-AMD-laptop-better-than-its-Intel-counterpart.427304.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E595-laptop-re...

neogodless 7y ago

Nah Zen isn't perfect for laptop but I've seen them in action and they are good options. Of course, Zen 2 APUs will help things there.

Redoubts 7y ago

I’m waiting for January where they release their mobile offerings. Hopefully they’ll be able to impress a little more this time around.

gameswithgo 7y ago

laptops are hard for amd due to oem backroom deals with intel, but with the popularity of zen2 that should start to crack i think. once zen2 mobile cpus hit the market we will start to see more amd laptops i think

agumonkey 7y ago

Some supermarket ads in the mail last month showed 3 laptops, 1 very low end atom x5 "skype machine" and 2 amd zen based medium class. I think zen will make a lot of sense for the majority of people. price/perf will reign over intel potential hedt products. If you give a 4 core + good gpu to the average joe for half the price of an intel he'll probably never look back.

tsss 7y ago
AMD has always been better at price/performance but in the laptop space the number 1 through 10 most important features are efficiency. Intel CPUs use less power and make less heat, which has always been the limiting factor.
- BubRoss 7y ago
  I don't think that is true anymore. AMD has a process advantage and measures their heat by the max clock rate, while Intel calls their max clock rate 'core boost' and measures their TDP with lower clocks. You can see benchmarks of the newest CPUs have Intel's high end chip that was just released ending up consuming about 100 more watts under heavy CPU loads.
- agumonkey 7y ago
  Confused because amd apu often struggled a tad more than Intel machines. Ipc wad weak and igpu was under utilized iirc

majewsky 7y ago

My notebook (2018 Thinkpad E485) has a Ryzen 5 2500U APU and I'm happy with it. The only bad thing about that notebook is lack of Thunderbolt.

josteink 7y ago

> Meanwhile Intel is still the only good option for laptops The new Thinkpad E595 replaces an Intel CPU with Ryzen (5/7 3x00U), and some reviews[1] seems to claim it’s a better laptop for it. [1] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E595-laptop-review-AMD-laptop-better-than-its-Intel-counterpart.427304.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E595-laptop-re...