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And are the horrors of Chinese labour conditions supposed to make us feel better about the fact that all our stuff is getting made there? I’m confused by the st

And are the horrors of Chinese labour conditions supposed to make us feel better about the fact that all our stuff is getting made there? I’m confused by the structure of your comment.

abledon 7y ago
no, the horrors should make my relatives stfu and stop complaining, because they are lucky they aren't on the wrong end of the coin flip.
- ng12 7y ago
  Because globalism traded jobs that once supported American families for jobs that allow Chinese families to live in grinding poverty? I don't get it either.
  - abledon 7y ago
    Time will march on no matter what, all I'm saying is that we should be thankful that during our finite lives, we have been blessed to live in the US where freedoms are still available to us. When people complain about products being made in another country... It is what it is... its globalism, its capitalism and thats where we are right now as the human race. It sucks but at least for some, who are lucky, who were born into prosperous nations, they get to enjoy comfy lifestyles compared to other unlucky ones who were born into poor circumstances. jesus lol, also see merp's comment
    - Cougher 7y ago
      "its globalism, its capitalism and thats where we are right now as the human race. It sucks" So they DO have something to complain about; so what's the beef with them complaining about it? Because they're not using your perspective? You're complaining that they're not looking at the issue through the perspective of others, so aren't you doing the same thing? The life experiences of people on the other side of the planet isn't more tangible than your relatives' life experiences which have borne witness to the suckiness that you acknowledge they've experienced. If a parent loses one child in a car accident, are you going to tell him to "stfu" because another parent somewhere lost two children in a car accident?
      - abledon 7y ago
        i don't think i'm complaining (def: 'express dissatisfaction'), more just reminding them to be empathetic to the global state of affairs. -- I don't think puttering through Home Depot, in your nice patagonia jacket, looking for a new leaf blower to clean your gigantic yard of your 3000sq meter house , checking the tags and moaning they are all made in china, meanwhile some poor guy living in a 3sq meter apartment slaving away in a unsafe toxic fume filled factory, is akin to losing a child vs someone else losing 2. -- yes, I will tell them to 'stfu' and stop complaining. You only quoted the start of my sentence, i said "It sucks but at least for some.. born into prosperous nations" . Most people in the US are the top % of wealth on the entire planet[1]. When people in the top % are _constantly_ complaining about their lifestyle and the limited options they have... my relatives are the top % [2]... [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/01/astonishing-numbers-americas-poor-still-live-better-than-most-of-the-rest-of-humanity/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/01/astonish... [2]https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-dark-humour https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-dark-humour

And are the horrors of Chinese labour conditions supposed to make us feel better about the fact that all our stuff is getting made there? I’m confused by the structure of your comment.

abledon 7y ago

no, the horrors should make my relatives stfu and stop complaining, because they are lucky they aren't on the wrong end of the coin flip.

ng12 7y ago
Because globalism traded jobs that once supported American families for jobs that allow Chinese families to live in grinding poverty? I don't get it either.
- abledon 7y ago
  Time will march on no matter what, all I'm saying is that we should be thankful that during our finite lives, we have been blessed to live in the US where freedoms are still available to us. When people complain about products being made in another country... It is what it is... its globalism, its capitalism and thats where we are right now as the human race. It sucks but at least for some, who are lucky, who were born into prosperous nations, they get to enjoy comfy lifestyles compared to other unlucky ones who were born into poor circumstances. jesus lol, also see merp's comment
  - Cougher 7y ago
    "its globalism, its capitalism and thats where we are right now as the human race. It sucks" So they DO have something to complain about; so what's the beef with them complaining about it? Because they're not using your perspective? You're complaining that they're not looking at the issue through the perspective of others, so aren't you doing the same thing? The life experiences of people on the other side of the planet isn't more tangible than your relatives' life experiences which have borne witness to the suckiness that you acknowledge they've experienced. If a parent loses one child in a car accident, are you going to tell him to "stfu" because another parent somewhere lost two children in a car accident?
    - abledon 7y ago
      i don't think i'm complaining (def: 'express dissatisfaction'), more just reminding them to be empathetic to the global state of affairs. -- I don't think puttering through Home Depot, in your nice patagonia jacket, looking for a new leaf blower to clean your gigantic yard of your 3000sq meter house , checking the tags and moaning they are all made in china, meanwhile some poor guy living in a 3sq meter apartment slaving away in a unsafe toxic fume filled factory, is akin to losing a child vs someone else losing 2. -- yes, I will tell them to 'stfu' and stop complaining. You only quoted the start of my sentence, i said "It sucks but at least for some.. born into prosperous nations" . Most people in the US are the top % of wealth on the entire planet[1]. When people in the top % are _constantly_ complaining about their lifestyle and the limited options they have... my relatives are the top % [2]... [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/01/astonishing-numbers-americas-poor-still-live-better-than-most-of-the-rest-of-humanity/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/01/astonish... [2]https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-dark-humour https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-dark-humour