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Tangential to this -- anyone have a good resource for selecting smart devices that are private and secure?

Vaslo 7y ago
Yes - would really like a good doorbell camera that I can host at home. Seems like the Amazon and Google are the best unfortunately.
- kevinsundar 7y ago
  See my sibling comment!
- macrolime 7y ago
  Check out doorbird https://www.doorbird.com https://www.doorbird.com
  - SEJeff 7y ago
    Can confirm. The doorbird is great. I use it with home assistant
kevinsundar 7y ago
One good way I've found is to use Home Assistant's integrations page. Let's say you're looking for a smart doorbell. You'd go here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#doorbell https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#doorbell You can then go to each integration and on the right if it says "IoT Class: Local Push" you can be fairly certain it can be locally controlled without the cloud and that it reports state without the cloud. In this scenario, it'd be DoorBird. You can be fairly certain you can block internet access at your router for this device and it'll work just fine. Don't quote me on that for Doorbird though.
- Klathmon 7y ago
  This can be a good first place to look, but don't rely on it. Many integrations have their local access via reverse engineered APIs, and they often go away when they get popular enough. I wrote the Samsung Family Hub smart fridge integration for home assistant and one day Samsung removed the local access in a fridge update and now there is no way to access it without their android or iOS app.
  - kevinsundar 7y ago
    Ah yes I agree, I've had the most luck with the above method if I block network connectivity to prevent automatic updates. But thats not always possible / you have to give up many other features potentially.
  - henryfjordan 7y ago
    That should be illegal... I wonder if you could return the fridge once they update claiming it stopped working for your purposes.
    - deleted 7y ago
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Havoc 7y ago
Best bet is get it up & running using a local HA server and then firewall it off so that it can't phone home

Yes - would really like a good doorbell camera that I can host at home. Seems like the Amazon and Google are the best unfortunately.

kevinsundar 7y ago
See my sibling comment!
macrolime 7y ago
Check out doorbird https://www.doorbird.com https://www.doorbird.com
- SEJeff 7y ago
  Can confirm. The doorbird is great. I use it with home assistant

kevinsundar 7y ago

One good way I've found is to use Home Assistant's integrations page. Let's say you're looking for a smart doorbell. You'd go here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#doorbell https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#doorbell You can then go to each integration and on the right if it says "IoT Class: Local Push" you can be fairly certain it can be locally controlled without the cloud and that it reports state without the cloud. In this scenario, it'd be DoorBird. You can be fairly certain you can block internet access at your router for this device and it'll work just fine. Don't quote me on that for Doorbird though.

Klathmon 7y ago
This can be a good first place to look, but don't rely on it. Many integrations have their local access via reverse engineered APIs, and they often go away when they get popular enough. I wrote the Samsung Family Hub smart fridge integration for home assistant and one day Samsung removed the local access in a fridge update and now there is no way to access it without their android or iOS app.
- kevinsundar 7y ago
  Ah yes I agree, I've had the most luck with the above method if I block network connectivity to prevent automatic updates. But thats not always possible / you have to give up many other features potentially.
- henryfjordan 7y ago
  That should be illegal... I wonder if you could return the fridge once they update claiming it stopped working for your purposes.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]

Havoc 7y ago

Best bet is get it up & running using a local HA server and then firewall it off so that it can't phone home